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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: northfifeduckling on February 06, 2009, 11:36:02 am
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I've put down our old humane rat trap near the duck feed, as they treated themselves to free lunches, dinners and breakfasts! We can't have killer traps or poison near the birds. I've caught three birds in it over the last 2 says, but the rats always seem to get out! The trap door definitely works, it's a real pain. Are their tails that long that they manage to lift the door up again??
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I had rats back up north. I put rat poison in a box with a cover and a hole at each end. chickens/ducks coudn't get access to poison and it got rid of the rats. for good measure I also used one of thsse sonic things but I don't know if that worked. I got the rat box at a local Agri shop
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Never used the humaine traps only if they get stuck in a empty feed bin, then i cant go anywhere near them, (have to run and get hubby to tip them out again) so dont think i'd be able to let them out of a trap they'd starve to death!!
I put poision in a plastic milk bottle, cut the hole a little bigger, put some red paint on it (Everyone here knows to leave the red one's well alone) and a bit of string on the handle ties it down. The hens can not get their head in to eat the poision, and i dont know if the smell of the old milk inside attracts them but they always seem to eat from the bottles better than enything else.
Dont know if thats any help
Emma.
(my spell check and smillies have stoped working!!??)
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Rat poison in a bait box has always worked very well for us! :)
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Another method is small poly bags(sandwich bags) with rat poison in them and tied tight. Poke them into holes in the wall above chicken/duck height. when they're gone the rats have taken them back to the nest. When the bags don't go away you've killed the rats and the baby rats too
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A good cat or two is all that's required. Saves having any poisons out on the land.
We only see dead rats & mice.
Cheers
Gavin
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Our cat's a brilliant mouser, but the bigger variety's not her thing (she's getting on a bit) - and she doesn't like the ducks, so won't go in that part of the garden. But I must say, since we had the cat, we didn't get them in the kitchenanymore (a real nightmare a few years back). Environmental health sorts out the ones that come for shelter into the attic...
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Our cats hopeless, use to have a toy poodle who was brilliant until see lost her teeth then she would launch them 10 foot in the air and leave them stunned, was thinking of asking the local charity but don't want house cats, not really a cat lover! :cat: :cat: :dog: :pig:
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We were given a Patterdale pup for the rats when we bought the farm and people swore blind that they were great for this. He's only about 20 weeks old now and I doubt very much if he will look a rat when he gets older. At the moment he is only interested in arguing with our older dog (a 14 stone English Mastiff) & he's only about 10lbs. All they do is argue over the teddy bears !?! and the little one wins most of the time.
So only time will tell if he gets rats or not - I will let you know
Milly
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If the breeding of your Patterdale is correct then it will be an instinct to find and kill rats, as it is with most small terriers. I am surprised he isn't already doing this at 6 months of age. I would check with his breeder that his parents and forebears were good ratters. Mind you if he is a teddy bear killer you won't want to exchange him for another anyway ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D TBs can be a damned pest at times! Especially if they lose themselves JUST before bedtime! ::)
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I wouldn't worry our Patterdale is 4 and is still destroying any Teddy he can get his paws on! He wasn't interested in anything else other than playing and tormenting our german shepherd until he was about 1 1/2, then the ratting instinct kicked in!! :D ;)
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Bob - the teddy raider - is from a long line of ratters so we were hoping he would come into his own when he gets a bit older. I personally wouldn't be bothered either way because he is so funny & cute, but the husband is really quite keen as this is what he was got for. I wouldn't be without him now anyway and Oscar (the big dog loves him really - when he's not biting his legs that is, or nose, jowls, well anywhere really) At least Oscar is getting more exercise now - his idea of exercise used to be laid watching me gardening !?!
Thanks for the information - husband can still live in hope now.
Milly
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Keep us posted! ;)
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Martin Clunes did a TV programme on dogs last year. He was comparing them to wolves, since they have 99% shared DNA. In most dogs we have diminished the hunt / kill instinct to fit our own purposes eg herd dogs - except terriers, where the kill instinct has been exaggerated. Even wolves don't kill for fun!
I'm sure he'll come into his own and size will be no barrier.
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Despite having 5 feral cats - we still have rats. The cats do keep them down it bit but they are not a complete solution. Does anyone know if it's safe to use poison with cats - at least one the cats has been known to actually eat the rats (YUK!!), so I don't want to poison the cats as well.
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:o :o omg that sounds so horrible :o :o
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most poisons that kill rats will also kill anything that eats the bodies. There are poisons that don't , but not sure how effective at killing rats they are ?? If you want to be sure you won't kill either your dogs , cats or even wild animals that eat rats , then the only way would be to stick with cats ,dogs ,traps and an air rifle ....I HATE RATS...yuk ....they make me shudder.
cheers
Russ
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My friend will not even say the name - he calls them long tails LOL
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lol.... I know how he feels... there is the TRUE story of a blind man who used to go for a walk in his local park in the early eveing and used to feed the birds and the squirrils. He said that he was feeding a new sub species of squirril ,a smooth tailed squirril , and someone from a zoo or something went to see this new sub species only to watch in horror as the blind man sat on the park bench covered in rats . OMG .... :o :o The funny thing is I have always called squirrils fury tailed rats .....
Russ
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We asked the environmental health gusy and we do get different information whoever we ask. It might have to do which kind of poison is used. One said that the cat would have to eat the equivalent of 20 poisoned mice to get problems and that the poisoned rodents hide away anyway and are not likely to get caught. Important is to keep an eye on your cat and if she gets a problem with bleeding out of her nose or any other orifice, go and see the vet immediately.