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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: sc12011 on May 23, 2011, 02:34:20 pm

Title: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: sc12011 on May 23, 2011, 02:34:20 pm

Hi there, ive recently come across this breed, whilst researching which breed to get for my first calves.

Ive heard they are quite hardy, do well on just grass and can be kept outdoor all winter.

Does anyone have any experience with them, good or bad?

thankyou  ;D

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 23, 2011, 03:14:59 pm

See this I posted on your other thread (scroll down to the last few paras for the Bazadaise bit)

http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=15424.msg149126#msg149126 (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=15424.msg149126#msg149126)

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: belgianblue on May 26, 2011, 06:52:53 pm

i hear that the breed can be quiet screwy, and this info has come from commercial farmers, try parthenaise

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: sc12011 on May 26, 2011, 07:41:26 pm

belgianblue -  im guessing that means their temperament is not the easiest? thanks for the tip!

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 26, 2011, 11:29:31 pm

Well I wouldn't want to damn the whole breed, and we have had some that have been incredibly laid back.  I have no personal experience of loopy Bazadaises.  (Whereas I can tell stories about Charolais and Limousin stirks...)  However I do hear about some Bazadaise bulls that give rise to rather 'sensitive' calves - ie, they react badly to noise, sticks, etc.  Maybe we shouldn't blame them for that, but when you can be working with breeds that will pretty much placidly go wherever you point them, why give ourselves the grief of ones that will charge around risking injury to themselves and the humans around them?

I think with any continental non-dairy breed it is wise to make sure you have seen the animal out of its comfort zone - easy if you buy them at the auction - watch the vendor with them in the ring, you'll soon see how quiet or otherwise they are!

And even with an Angus or Hereford cross, unless you are buying them from the dairy farmer and he/she tells you it's from a dairy cow, you don't know what breed(s) are in the mix from the mother's side.

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: Bioman on May 28, 2011, 09:37:03 pm

As a rule any continental beef breed, has an air of madness. Limousin having a very bad reputation until a few years ago when they started trying to breed it out. But throw backs are common.

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: belgianblue on May 29, 2011, 04:09:23 pm

in the past we have used the red genetic lim and yes they are loopy and would jump an 6 ft gate,

we have also used the black genetic lim and yes they are quiet and calm and have kept an couple of heifers.

Title: Re: Bazadaise Cattle?
Post by: dillon on May 30, 2011, 10:16:28 pm

all depends on handling as with all livestiock :cow: