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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Andy1982 on January 10, 2011, 12:04:16 pm

Title: ideal bedding
Post by: Andy1982 on January 10, 2011, 12:04:16 pm
Hi everyone . We just bought our first 9 chooks and i made a coop for them which they seem to be happy in. I did;nt realise how much they dump[ from a height and was just wondering what is best for bedding and how deep. We are using straw atm as that is what we can source but i did see milled straw somewhere the other day.

Thanks

Andy
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: gavo on January 10, 2011, 12:12:34 pm
We use a mixture of chopped straw and shavings; in both our duck and hen housing; the shavings are very absorbant and the straw seems to make it cosier and softer under foot. Also straw on its own is a pain to clear out just doesn't gather up easily and seems to be excessively wet and almost slimy.We buy both from our local feed merchant in very densely packed bales.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Andy1982 on January 10, 2011, 12:22:00 pm
Thanks for the imput gavo. i think i will have to go for something more absorbant and your right the straw is not the easiest to clean up.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Rosemary on January 10, 2011, 12:25:39 pm
I use Hemcore. It's not cheap - about £10 for a bale but it's very absorbent, so you can use it quite sparingly. It's nice to handle and dust extracted. It's a waste product from hemp grown for paper - hemp is grown with little artificial inputs, so it's quite environmentally friendly. It also rots down into compost in 8weeks or so, unlike shavings or straw.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Daveravey on January 10, 2011, 12:39:12 pm
I'm a Hemcore convert too 

Nice & easy to use & a bale lasts for ages.

Smells quite nice as well, so no ammonia stench in the coops   ;)
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: faith0504 on January 10, 2011, 01:23:11 pm
i use shavings and i put down a bale at a time, nice cosy hen house for my girls,
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: doganjo on January 10, 2011, 02:46:21 pm
I use Hemcore. It's not cheap - about £10 for a bale but it's very absorbent, so you can use it quite sparingly. It's nice to handle and dust extracted. It's a waste product from hemp grown for paper - hemp is grown with little artificial inputs, so it's quite environmentally friendly. It also rots down into compost in 8weeks or so, unlike shavings or straw.
Is this available down here, Rosemary?
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: JulieS on January 10, 2011, 02:58:41 pm
There is a list of distributors on their website www.hemcore.co.uk  :)
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Womble on January 10, 2011, 03:01:35 pm
Yes, I have had Hemcore from the Boquhan shop near Kippen before, and we've found it excellent. We don't damp it down as the instructions say, but instead give it a good soaking once it's in the compost heap, and it rots down really quickly. Russells in Larbert sells something by another name which looks more or less the same too, so you can definitely get it in the Central Belt.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: doganjo on January 10, 2011, 03:08:31 pm
I see McCaskies at Springkerse have it.  Thanks all.  I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: little blue on January 10, 2011, 06:04:35 pm
straw may harbour mites, if this is a problem with your birds...
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: princesspiggy on January 10, 2011, 06:50:00 pm
a nice thick bed of shavings, then skip out worst once a week, and replace thoroughly when needed. if youve youngsters sitting on the floor, extra straw on top is nice for them to snuggle into.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: sheardale on January 10, 2011, 06:56:11 pm
I put newspapers down then straw on top.  Put all on compost heap when cleaning out.  I have shavings down just now on top of the papers.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 10, 2011, 07:42:00 pm
I had to stop using shavings as the young birds were eating them - I watched them do it, not just having a peck, sadly  ::) :chook:
Back to straw on Lino.  lino, carboard and straw for the ducks  :&>
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: doganjo on January 10, 2011, 11:03:44 pm
Same for me at the moment but might try the hemp
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: waterhouse on January 10, 2011, 11:21:27 pm
We use the cross-cut paper shreddings.  I have a lot of confidential papers and it works a treat and rots down nicely. 
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: ambriel on January 10, 2011, 11:47:46 pm
We use straw for our girls. I was advised against hay because it can harbour parasites.

It can be a bit of a pain to shovel into a sack when you're clearing them out - especially if you're doing it on your own.

We also keep a few pigs so it makes sense to standardise the bedding with the two animals rather than double-up.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: OhLaLa on January 11, 2011, 11:29:30 am
You say from a height so I'm assuming they are perching ok? If so, put a droppings board under the perch which you can easily remove for cleaning. It will catch the poop and therefore keep the floor below much cleaner.

Straw/hay is ok for the nests but keep it dry. Change it regularly. Shavings on the floor helps with the daily muck collected underfoot, but, the birds SHOULD be perching (perches are for sleeping, nests are for eggs) so use a droppings board.

 :chook:
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 11, 2011, 12:25:08 pm
I found hay was better with absorbing moisture but very dusty, so not good for the birds' lungs.
I can not stop mine from sleeping in the nesting boxes, some of them always huddle in there to keep warm... :chook:
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: doganjo on January 11, 2011, 12:47:59 pm
Mine all congregate at the back corner of their shed - only two LS will perch, so I have to put bedding down too.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: faith0504 on January 11, 2011, 02:00:01 pm
none of my hens perch, thats why i put a big thick shavings bed down so they can get comfy and cosy
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: johnmac on January 11, 2011, 10:58:30 pm
I've ordered up two bales (40kg) of this hemp malarky from my local country supplier to see what it's like! I was never a fan of the shavings... Always got too messy in
rain
and winter.

I'll let you all know how I fair!

:-)
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Squire on January 13, 2011, 12:25:30 pm
I have access to unlimited supply of green Oak chippings, I know they have a high Tannin content, does anyone know if they would be suitable for deep litter under my planned elevated coop? :chook:
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: princesspiggy on January 14, 2011, 08:03:14 am
dont know about oak, is it cedar wood that can make u ill? keeps bugs away put gives u flu like symptoms.  :wave: :chook:
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Helencus on January 14, 2011, 08:16:02 am
I use a mix of Bliss horse bedding (which is shredded rape straw and very quick to rot ) and straw. My hatched birds perch ex bats don't. Means the nest boxes get filthy unfortunately. We did have covers my hubby made to keep them out but when we got the dreaded mite we burnt them. He keeps threatening to make me some more but out of plastic but nothing yet.
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Eastling on January 21, 2011, 03:37:08 pm
Would the hemp be ok to use for pigs with straw on top?
Title: Re: ideal bedding
Post by: Helencus on January 21, 2011, 11:09:06 pm
I've used bliss with straw on top for minions whilst in farrowing, works great soaks up well.