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Title: Black nose valais
Post by: Jenniejenjen on June 04, 2025, 10:54:00 pm
Hi, it is me again from wet and wind swept Wester-Ross. Northwest Highlands. I was looking for some more advice. Would Black Nose valais be able to cope with wet, windy and mud? Kinda fall in love ❤️  but I know I shouldn't of.  :hugsheep:
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Fleecewife on June 04, 2025, 11:53:06 pm
Well, they're native to Switzerland, which can be cold but, being a continental climate, is dry compared to Wester Ross.  Their fleece doesn't look remotely weatherproof to me, but I have never kept them - too big for me.  They are very cute sheep, but in some climates cute isn't going to survive or prosper.
Someone who has actually kept them will hopefully come along to give you a more informed opinion  :hugsheep: [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Bywaters on June 05, 2025, 10:30:52 am
Not from personal experience, however, there are some across the valley from me and the owner is very critical of their ability to cope here in West Yorkshire at only 800 ft

They, allegedly, suffer badly from  feet issues, very possibly, as said before, becasue they are built for dry mountains, not damp bogs !

I wouldn't, personally. My preference is for a breed that is actually suited to your climate and conditions

Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Jenniejenjen on June 05, 2025, 01:33:41 pm
Thank you. I was thinking the same thing. Dry and cold fine. Wet and wind not. Just wanted to see what everyone else thought.  :)
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Fleecewife on June 05, 2025, 05:27:58 pm
You could go for something which doesn't have just a black nose, but is black all over and is eminently suited to the climate - Hebridean sheep, preferably multihorned just because I love them  :hugsheep:
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Jenniejenjen on June 05, 2025, 09:21:56 pm
Yes. I am wanting to get some Hebs.
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Fleecewife on June 05, 2025, 11:04:00 pm
 :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
        :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Jenniejenjen on June 05, 2025, 11:18:12 pm
   :wave: :sheep: do you breed them?  :sheep:  :love: :thinking: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 06, 2025, 12:48:59 pm
Yes. I am wanting to get some Hebs.

Another tip, then, is if you are planning to have multiple breeds. try to get breeds which have the same needs.  It's hard to meet the needs of a sheep which needs supplementary feed alongside a sheep which gets fat on fresh air, for instance. 

And if you'd be keeping multiple tups not all of the same breed, have all horned or all polled.  Horns kill polled when things get fiesty. 
Title: Re: Black nose valais
Post by: Fleecewife on June 08, 2025, 12:36:04 am
   :wave: :sheep: do you breed them?  :sheep: :love: :thinking: :thumbsup:

We used to breed breeding stock, but now we are selling off any younger ewes as we are retired and so are they.

There are breeders in the isles and the Highlands, for example Eagle Brae, Strathglass, Beauly, [email protected] (they also have holiday lodges). I can give you other contacts if you need them. It's always best to buy local with Primitives so they are acclimatised and used to the local pests.

Our ancient, rather clonky website has some details of Multihorned Hebs:  www.scothebs.co.uk   Also have a look at the main Hebridean Sheep Society site:www.hebrideansheep.org.uk, although it's a bit oriented to the deep south.  Note, the HSS has a breed description, not a breed standard, which allows for the variations within a native breed.
Other Scottish Native Breeds are of course the Shetland, the Soay, the Boreray and the other one from St Kilda, whose name I have temporarily forgotten  ::)

I understand what Sally is saying about sticking to one breed, but you don't have to make up your mind straight away.  Do some research, visit some local folk who keep each breed and try not to fall in love too soon.  All sheep are wonderful, so take your time and remember if you want to change your mind, all sheep also taste delicious  ;)