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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: tobygoodger on July 07, 2023, 09:37:30 am

Title: Can i get planning to develop a farm ruin into a small dwelling? Dartmoor
Post by: tobygoodger on July 07, 2023, 09:37:30 am
I am aware that is often reviewed on a case by case basis. But im wondering if anyone has been through the same journey?

I am looking to buy some land, i don't have much money so hunting for something (as many of us are im sure) without a house on it but with potential for development of a ruin or farm building.

Has anyone successfully applied for planning of an old farm ruin? This piece of land i have come across is in dartmoor national park.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/136349825#/?channel=COM_BUY

MAny Thanks !
Title: Re: Can i get planning to develop a farm ruin into a small dwelling? Dartmoor
Post by: Rosemary on July 07, 2023, 12:09:35 pm
Try these guys https://tlio.org.uk/chapter7/
Title: Re: Can i get planning to develop a farm ruin into a small dwelling? Dartmoor
Post by: doganjo on July 07, 2023, 05:03:32 pm
My experience is in Scotland only, but when i wanted to build my house in Aberdeenshire in 2005, planning told me I could develop the property only if the old building still had a roof

However, I went back to them and told them that no one else could build anything on the plot as it was landlocked by our land, and that if I didn't get planning the whole site and field would go rampant.  I also said that I would prefer to take the two conjoined workers cottages down and use the granite blocks to face a completely new building, and that the new house was for me to live in. I had already sold the old cottage I was in along with about a third of the land

When they came out to look they realised it was sensible to allow me to build a house to improve the amenity of the hamlet, and granted permission

I have heard of that stipulation in other cases, but only in Scotland.
Title: Re: Can i get planning to develop a farm ruin into a small dwelling? Dartmoor
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 08, 2023, 11:52:28 am
Reading the method of sale, they will keep taking bids until it tops out, so you can be 100% confident that if there is *any* possibility of ever getting pp for a dwelling, it will achieve a price accordingly. 

Don't let me put you off having a punt, but please (and here is my voice of experience!) don't fall in love with a future there until and unless your bid is accepted, contracts signed, sealed and delivered! 

I wish you luck, and to avoid a broken heart...
Title: Re: Can i get planning to develop a farm ruin into a small dwelling? Dartmoor
Post by: Badger Nadgers on July 11, 2023, 02:40:27 pm
Also be aware that planning in National Parks is different.  You can't do the agricultural  "permitted development" inthe normal way and there can be far stricter planning requirements.  I would suggest your change of getting PP for permanent residence are pretty minimal.