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Growing => Gardens => Topic started by: Ghdp on June 12, 2023, 01:12:49 pm
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I remember this was raised some time ago but I cannot find if now. What do people do. I have too much to try to tackle by hand I think as it is a gravel lane about 1/4 mile long and a parking area.
Path clear is now wholly ineffective
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I only have a small area but even having put down weed control fabric under teh gravel I've still got load - some of them are air-borne, some from plants at the edge, and some stubborn things like couch grass and nettles that get through anything. I've been able to get rid of some with boiling water, and other by pulling out by the roots, but that's not feasible for you. I've also sprayed with vinegar with limited success. I think they're worse this year than in the four years I've been here
Sorry I can't b of any help :'(
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Thanks. Worse than ever this year too. I could try vinegar. Any one have any thoughts on rock salt sprinkled lightly first?
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We have sprayed vinegar 18% strength and it is effective but expensive, so best saved for the persistent weeds like dandelion. We now use a propane weed burner which needs ear defenders. Cylinder goes in a wheelbarrow and with a 5 metre hose it takes 40 minutes to do a 40 metre gravel driveway, so it will be a long job and you may need two cylinders. Even propane gets so cold it loses pressure, so you may be changing cylinders over just to stop it freezing?
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Pour concrete or tarmac over the gravel?
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I am not sure tarmac or cement would work as water runs down the field and onto the track in heavy rain and I think the ground below would wash away over time.
I think it’s going to have to be a hand weeding, vinegar and hot gun approach in combination.
If any one passes through Conwy and sees a weary, stooped chap with weeds in one hand and an expression of bewilderment about his life style choices…. That will be me!
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What size gravel? I think they used to rake gravel, had the same effect as hoeing, exposing weed roots to dry out.
Flame sounds a good idea, just a quick whizz over should kill weeds, I don't think you have to see them sizzle, rather shrivel later.
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The more the driveway is used the less the weeds grow. I can remember when cars leaked that much oil the centre of a track was always weed free!
The instructions on our gun say to 'blanche' the weeds, so a momentary contact is sufficient and with the flame at an angle it covers a reasonable area. The weeds turn a slightly darker shade of green, but dry out in a few hours of sun and "melt away" in a few days. Can't do it when it's windy because the flame keeps blowing out. Buy one with a self-lighter and get as long a pipe as possible. Ours is 6 metres but double would be far better- burn the length of the pipe, leave the burner on the ground and move the wheelbarrow to it. Can't use it in a dry period as you are likely to start a fire. Very much a case of burn when you can and fit all the other jobs around it.
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I am not sure tarmac or cement would work as water runs down the field and onto the track in heavy rain and I think the ground below would wash away over time.
I think it’s going to have to be a hand weeding, vinegar and hot gun approach in combination.
If any one passes through Conwy and sees a weary, stooped chap with weeds in one hand and an expression of bewilderment about his life style choices…. That will be me!
:roflanim: Oh dear, that's so sad ;D Beaten by gravel
Actually we have a gravel strip in our driveway, but we rarely weed it and it's full of flowers. There is even a self sown rosebush which stops my son's car every time he drives over it (it's a safety measure of some sort). Great fun :innocent:
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I've been using a roofing torch. It sounds like a jet engine when you pull the trigger. It's effective but a tad concerned about fire spread when it's been so dry so not been used for a while. I can't use weed killer as the bees are relatively close to the track
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Why does it need to be plant-free?
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Why does it need to be plant-free?
not plant free, weed free
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Why does it need to be plant-free?
not plant free, weed free
Yeah, that is what i was getting at. Lots of "weeds" are nice plants, good for bees and other insects and so on, so i was wondering if a change in mindset might work better than a constant battle against nature...
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I have poppies in my gravel, and just found a tiny red leaved plant which i immediately recognised as Heuchera :excited: :excited:
The Heuchera has been potted up, and the poppies have been left.
The rosebay willow herb, couch grass, and false nettle are now fading away :innocent:
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Sorry haven’t responded. The weeds are a mixed bag of the pretty and the pretty invasive. Currently hand pulling still but will have to go in with vinegar and salt next.
The drive runs down to our holiday let and we have to strike a balance between ‘relaxed gardening’ and ‘over run with weeds’