The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: tommytink on October 18, 2022, 07:07:49 pm
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I fluke three times a year - around Oct, Jan, Apr. April I use a wormer/fluke combi only need something for adults, but what should I use at the beginning? I have both a triclabendazole based one, and a closantel based one, so I’m not using the same active ingredient. Do both of these kill down to the same age? I can see they both say immature and mature, but the closantel based one specifies kill rates of immature broken down into weeks so didn’t know if this one was more effective? At the beginning I’m assuming I really need the one that kills down to the youngest age.
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Triclabendazole kills down to 2 days old normally, closantel only kills 6 week old fluke. This time of year use tbz. I use closantel in the spring at lambing.
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I am more concerned about you using combined wormer/ fluke ...... adult sheep rarely need worming 3 times a year and you are in danger of developing resistance .... I have white wormer resistance here (bought in with sheep) .... resistance is a real issue ....better to worm count and just use a flukeicide only when wormer not needed.
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The first question is of course ,do you have fluke ? not every farm does even though fluke are appearing on farms that have not seen any . Speak to your vet and they may suggest a blood test or a fec in late winter specifically looking for fluke eggs . Fasinex is the choice for oct ( unless you have resistance , speak to a vet ) flukeiver is good for jan then a white wormer at the fluke rate around lambing to kill adults . When you say combi do you mean wormer and fluke combined for all 3 treatments ? as Backinwellies says there is no need for this and if you mean you only use a combi in april then the flukacide will be closantel or triclabendazole so just a second dose of a flukicide already used
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Thanks Shep, that answers my question.
Backinwellies I said I only use the combi in April so no need to be concerned! The only routine time the girls get a wormer is for post lambing. I don’t worm the rest of the time unless they need it.
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TT- I too was a bit concerned you 'fluke 3 times a year',
I also worm just after lambing, and normally then only as needed. However this year I'm moving the goats onto a fresh field, so all been recently wormed and housed until fencing finished, (fencing taking far longer than expected :( )
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Il se ond the no need to worm adults 3 times a year. Youl end up with resistant worms. Check the condition of your ewes and look for scouring. Treat only the ones you think need treating. Adults have a level of immunity to worms. Lambs not so much so.
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Il se ond the no need to worm adults 3 times a year. Youl end up with resistant worms. Check the condition of your ewes and look for scouring. Treat only the ones you think need treating. Adults have a level of immunity to worms. Lambs not so much so.
I don’t think TT is saying they worm adults 3 times a year. Worms and fluke are 2 different things. Adult ewes mostly have good resistance to worms but not fluke.
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Il se ond the no need to worm adults 3 times a year. Youl end up with resistant worms. Check the condition of your ewes and look for scouring. Treat only the ones you think need treating. Adults have a level of immunity to worms. Lambs not so much so.
Yes, as you can see from my reply to backinwellies I don’t worm my sheep three times a year! My question was only about fluke treatments.