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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: Declan on November 29, 2010, 12:29:00 pm

Title: Do goats need coats
Post by: Declan on November 29, 2010, 12:29:00 pm
My 2 pygmy wethers and 2 an wethers have access to outside during this cold snap- they seem happy to wander in and out of their house- snow on the ground or not.
 
Should I be letting them out/shutting them in or can i get them one of those doggie coats you see. It seems a little mean to keep them in if the want to be wandering about.
What do you think?

Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: wytsend on November 29, 2010, 02:24:18 pm
You will soon know if they are cold.  The ANs are the ones most likely,  the pigmies tend to have very thick coats.

I make Goat rugs that are specifically designed to fit - dog coats OK but not perfect in fit,   difficult to get them big enough for full grown wethers.  The coats I make are also waterproof as they are made from the same lightweight material as horse outdoor rugs.  Very warm with a 200g poly fill, don't slip even when a goat has rolled !

Give me a call if you would like to discuss further on  01647 231456 (evenings)
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: Brucklay on November 29, 2010, 06:40:40 pm
I find my pygmy's pretty resilient - I only every lock them in is then the windy is howling and blowing the rain or snow directly into their house - so at all other times door at either end is open and then can go in and out or what then tend to do is go out one end have a look about and in the other end and continue that throughout the day - also maybe your's are better behaved than mine but mine would eat a coat maybe not their own but certainly everyone else's, including mine!!
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: Anke on November 29, 2010, 07:42:35 pm
If your goats are used to be out and about in most wathers and have free access to their house whenever they need it, then I don't think they need coats on at all. Good to have a couple in reserve if one is not feeling well... and for pigmies I would have thought a doggie coat should be ok.
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: misspiggy on December 18, 2010, 10:12:06 pm
I have GG and they are out 365 days a year (unless just kidded and then they stay in for a night or two!) and dont have coats - they would eat them!
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: princesspiggy on December 19, 2010, 08:23:36 pm
I have GG and they are out 365 days a year (unless just kidded and then they stay in for a night or two!) and dont have coats - they would eat them!
my gg used to shiver real bad, in winter, felt sorry for her, but wasnt skinny and had plenty shelter. i was gona get her a coat but couldnt find any waterproof ones.
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: wytsend on December 21, 2010, 09:48:44 am
If you are interested I make waterproof ones with warm linings.  Many people have bought them for just this sought of weather.

They will stay in place and not slip.   I make to order so would need measurements but these can be in the post within 24hrs of order.

Ring me on 01647 231456 if you would like to discuss further - evenings best !!
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: Mays on December 25, 2010, 07:09:33 pm
we had -15 here last week, and my girls was shivering & I was very worried about one of them who i thought may get phnumonia. The shed they are in is incredibly cold, even the water buckets were froze solid. I put single feece rugs on both of them, but decided to install a heat lamp instead, they dont mind wearing a rug, but the lamp brings temp up to +2 in the shed, which is far more acceptable apparently as the girls are much happier & no longer shivering.
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: plumseverywhere on December 26, 2010, 08:40:37 am
If they wear coats, does it not stop the natural 'winter' coat growing through? I was just wondering because when I stuck a coat on my bald, moulting hen (yes, I am that daft!!) I got told by the fowl trust that it would stop her feathers growing back properly so removed it quick smart!
I do need to get a coat for times when the goats are poorly though so will be getting in touch soon wytsend.
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: Mays on December 26, 2010, 11:06:25 am
If they wear coats, does it not stop the natural 'winter' coat growing through? I was just wondering because when I stuck a coat on my bald, moulting hen (yes, I am that daft!!) I got told by the fowl trust that it would stop her feathers growing back properly so removed it quick smart!
I do need to get a coat for times when the goats are poorly though so will be getting in touch soon wytsend.

The winter coat is "grown" as the days shorten, thus once winter arrives the winter coat is in full bloom. Rugging before the winter coat is established will to some extent inhibit coat growth, but really only artificial light would make any noted difference as it is light that triggers the growth and casting process. At this time of year as the daylight starts to creep in again they will start shedding their winter coat. i often, infact almost always see some casting starting around the end of December with the horses.

Chickens however, I guess are a compeletely differrent situation? I actually know nothing about hens & have no idea if they grow thicker plumes in the winter or not??
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: wytsend on December 26, 2010, 12:01:48 pm
[quote I do need to get a coat for times when the goats are poorly though so will be getting in touch soon wytsend.
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Give me a call on 01647 231456 - evenings,  to discuss measurements etc.
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: divanp75 on December 26, 2010, 06:03:15 pm
I put single feece rugs on both of them, but decided to install a heat lamp instead, they dont mind wearing a rug, but the lamp brings temp up to +2 in the shed, which is far more acceptable apparently as the girls are much happier & no longer shivering.

Love the photo on FB of one of them looking up at their new lamp  ;D

Your girls are very lucky

Diane
Title: Re: Do goats need coats
Post by: princesspiggy on December 30, 2010, 05:18:04 pm
we had -15 here last week, and my girls was shivering & I was very worried about one of them who i thought may get phnumonia.

am i right in thinking that pnemonia can be caused by standing still in damp/humid conditions as opposed to the cold. i was told by a farmer once, its not the cold that gets them, but its when it starts to warm up, then they get pnemonia and die. i think he was talking bout sheep but must all be relative.