The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Smallholding => Land Management => Topic started by: macgro7 on May 12, 2019, 02:02:30 am
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There's a 12,816 acres estate in Scotland available for sale.
It costs over 4mln which means it is only around £200 per acre when you think about it.
https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural (https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural)
How would you manage such a huge property??? Imagine living there. It's beautiful but you would drive for over 10 miles and still be on your own property!
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Oh wow. That is absolutely my dream (although TBH it would probably be a nightmare - I don't suit tweeds and couldn't bring myself to shoot a deer!).
Perhaps if we each put in an acre's worth and ran it as a TAS timeshare? ;D
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If you had the means to purchase this you probably wouldn't be interested in getting your sleeves rolled up and getting stuck in. You would employ an agent to make as much money as possible from government grants and incentives - Dyson is a prime example....
That is so sad SD that you can't see the dream here! :raining: There is so much potential without any grants (apart from the livestock enterprise). It is lovely to have dreams. Ok for most (even all) of us on here the raising of 4 million is unlikely to be attainable. But it doesn't stop us maybe realising the potential of a similar operation but on a much smaller scale. To me the day you stop dreaming is the day you stop living. :thumbsup: :sunshine:
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MY dream would be to repopulate the land. Scotland used to have many many people cultivating and living off the land, before the Clearances and crofting. Then they were turfed off so big land owners could concentrate on sheep, which were then big income generators, while they used the profits to live the high life in London. The straths and glens were left virtually empty, and the houses crumbled away.
I'm not failing to see the dream, but for me it would be a nightmare. So many people are now wanting to live away from the cities, but the land is tied up in profit making enterprises such as grouse shooting (which equates with the killing of birds of prey, hares - why? - and defending the land by gamekeepers so only those who can pay can enjoy it), deer stalking, and fishing out the rivers, when only those who can afford a license can take those fish. It's so elitist it makes me gag. Those who can afford £4 million are not those who struggle to feed their families. In Scotland, most of the big estate owners now are from overseas, or huge conglomerates. If I were able to afford the land, the grouse moors would be left to the wild, deer would be culled if their numbers got too high, and would serve as a food source for everyone, the rivers would be available for all to fish. It wouldn't solve the world's problems, but it would show that humans might not all be selfish and self agrandising.
Thank goodness we don't all have the same dreams :idea:
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While you have good intentions ,you would need to have 8 million to cover the basic costs , the big house here has spent over 100,000 in 2yrs just keeping it wind and watertight , then the many properties are in constant need of maintenance / upgrading , the small staff are to pay etc While we may have 9,500 acres of trees all of the costs have to born by the estate before any income is received .
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MY dream would be to repopulate the land. If I were able to afford the land, the grouse moors would be left to the wild, deer would be culled if their numbers got too high, and would serve as a food source for everyone, the rivers would be available for all to fish. It wouldn't solve the world's problems, but it would show that humans might not all be selfish and self agrandising.
Thank goodness we don't all have the same dreams :idea:
That would be my dream too
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"Crowd funding" ? Just don't mention the midges ;)
(However, it would likely be a very big crowd, with disparate interests, all needing to be to managed in one way or another. :( )
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There's a 12,816 acres estate in Scotland available for sale.
It costs over 4mln which means it is only around £200 per acre when you think about it.
https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural (https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural)
How would you manage such a huge property??? Imagine living there. It's beautiful but you would drive for over 10 miles and still be on your own property!
Lol
Sorry as an aussie on here this tickles me pink. Funny people in your little country =)
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Oh yeah. In Australia this is a smallholding lol
The difference is on one acre in the UK you can have 1 cow. In Australian out back for 1 cow you need like 60 acres loooool
I'd love to go there by the way.
P.s. I come from a country where until recently average size of an agricultural holding (i.e. a farm that would support a family working full time) would be less than 5 hectares, often below 1 hectare.
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There's a 12,816 acres estate in Scotland available for sale.
It costs over 4mln which means it is only around £200 per acre when you think about it.
https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural (https://www.galbraithgroup.com/property/per170030-glenlochay-by-killin-perthshire-fk21-8ub-land-farm-estate-rural)
How would you manage such a huge property??? Imagine living there. It's beautiful but you would drive for over 10 miles and still be on your own property!
Lol
Sorry as an aussie on here this tickles me pink. Funny people in your little country =)
Sorry, but yes, it's our country
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I wonder, are they are selling to raise money , because of a change in direction of the company or selling to avoid swineging land taxes that are being mooted by a certain political mind set .
It would be hellish to build their and let in anyone that wants to live there the access roads power phone & water systems would not be likely to improve the wilderness .
Even if everyone that wanted to farm or smallhold there was allowed, it wouldn't be long before the vast majority failed and either gave up the hard life & squatted , living on government incomes or walked out & returned to where they came from poorer but much the wiser .