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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Browntea on October 10, 2010, 12:34:49 pm

Title: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 10, 2010, 12:34:49 pm
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/keiron01pics/1e60120f.jpg)

The 2 pigs we have are kept on the edge of north York moors so I guess ticks are always going to be a problem!! Blossom our Berkshire is getting plagued with the pesky things the pic shows what I think are eggs but not really sure, if anyone could tell me what they are it would be much appreciated,also how can we (if possible) keep the ticks off her?
They don't seem to be on our large White cross I guess that's the colour thing....do the ticks prefer a darker skin to hide in?

Many thanks for any replies
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 10, 2010, 12:42:57 pm
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/keiron01pics/046087f3.jpg)

This is her solution to the ticks I reckon!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 10, 2010, 12:45:49 pm
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Is why we have ticks?!!
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: manian on October 10, 2010, 12:49:31 pm
they look a bit like Bot fly eggs. If they are they must be washed off as can cause problems. not known them on pigs though often plague horses on legs.
Bot flies will lay eggs on your horse's legs in late summer. Because the eggs feel itchy, your horse will lick her legs. The eggs pass from the horse's tongue to the stomach lining. Next spring, the eggs will have turned into larvae and will be passed through the horse's stools.
 Bot larvae rob your horse of nutrients and can even cause stomach ulcers.

Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: HappyHippy on October 10, 2010, 02:51:05 pm
I'm not sure what the eggs are unfortunately, but once you've got them off give her a rub with some pig oil mixed with a few drops of tea tree oil and this might deter them in future.
Good luck and let us know how she gets on.
Karen
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: BadgerFace on October 10, 2010, 03:09:30 pm
They are (pig) lice eggs. Ivermectin (Noromectin) injection will kill the adult lice, sometimes needs repeating again after the eggs hatch. Some people use Ivermectin pour-on (not licenced for pigs in the UK) or louse powder. Pig oil helps to stop the eggs for sticking to the pigs bristles. You also need to change the bedding in their ark/house.

HTH

Edit - for spelling  ::)
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Sylvia on October 10, 2010, 04:12:25 pm
I used to stand and comb off lice from my Berkshires with a nit-comb and squash them. Do it every few days and they won't get a chance to lay eggs.
I think they must have been in the straw I used as they had none when they came and there have never been pigs on our land in living memory.
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Hilarysmum on October 10, 2010, 04:41:48 pm
Check inside ears and in tbe warm bits between their legs and "arms" they will often live unnoticed for some time in these places.
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 10, 2010, 07:28:29 pm
Are berkshires more prone to these?

Is the above drug mentioned from the vet? If not where would I get it?

Blossom has them behind her ears and also tops of her legs in the soft warm areas!

The bedding was changed yesterday I doubt if it's come in from that but I don't know.

I'm a little puzzled why she has them and not the large White cross (petal) but it's just maybe her colour been a White pig they wouldn't show do easy I guess!

What I really need to know is do I get the drugs to treat them from the vet or are they not licensed?

Thanks for all your help
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: knightquest on October 10, 2010, 09:39:55 pm
Just a cautionary note..................ask Fleecewife about Ivermectin

Ian
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Fleecewife on October 11, 2010, 02:31:43 am
Well, actually ask your vet about Ivermectin  :)  I grew up on a pig farm but that was before Ivermectin was made - any lice we just squashed. Now I don't have any pigs - still love them though!
My concerns with Ivermectin are to do with it passing through animals and continuing to kill worms, but this time in the soil.  It is very persistant and will have a detrimental effect on the pasture, because earthworms help to aerate the ground and to draw litter etc down into the earth to be recycled, so a reduction in numbers is not good.  When manure is composted or stacked in a muck heap, if the animals have been wormed with Ivermectin, the heap will not rot down for a long time.
I don't know if this effect would also happen with an injected dose.
You need to buy it from your vet anyway, so you can ask him what he recommends
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Hilarysmum on October 11, 2010, 09:24:13 am
Re Ivermectin I use the injection.  All non organic wormers will cause the above problems, not just ivermectin.  Earth worms can carry the eggs from these parasites, (or so I read on a web site).  Ivermectin injections from the vet mean that only the correct amount is used and only every six months.  Ivermectin stops lice and controls worms for that period.  We found the lice were carried in the bedding. 

Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: OhLaLa on October 11, 2010, 09:55:47 am
Bot fly eggs are an orange colour.

 :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 12, 2010, 12:54:50 am
Many thanks for all your replies

I have been out and bought a bottle of paramectin multi injection 250 ml for the princely sum of £29!! The most annoying part is I'm only going to need 4ml to treat the pigs and once opened it's got to be used within 28 days!!!! So hopefully it will work,first jabs will be first thing in the morning!!

If anyone is needing any of this paramectin for their own stock and is willing to come to Pickering I'm sure we could come to some arrangement  ;)

Most of all thanks for your help, everytime I think of these bugs I just can't help my skin crawling!!
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Browntea on October 12, 2010, 12:20:30 pm
Well both of the girls are now jabbed!! What a mission this was but well worth it for them!

The leaflet that came with the paramectin wasnt too clear or it's just me!! I understand I will need to give them another dose in 3weeks? Can anyone clear that up for me?

Thanks
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: Fleecewife on October 12, 2010, 11:33:17 pm
Can't help with the dosage, but next time you just need a dose or two, ask your vet and he/she can give you just the amount you need - far cheaper than buying a whole bottle then having to throw it out mostly unused.  Don't forget to record it in your medecines book too.
Title: Re: Does anyone know what these eggs are? Picture to view
Post by: stu222art on October 17, 2010, 06:33:28 pm
we had lice the first year with tams vet injected cleaned bedding out and burnt hut then jeyes the hut not had a problum since