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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 08:00:02 am

Title: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 08:00:02 am
Went to Devon for long weekend holiday and have come back early after a phonecall to say my Toggenburg Nanny was looking depressed. Asked the lady looking after her if she was scouring and they said there was a bit. we came straight home.
vet came yesterday, goat still lying down and gently moaning - its all too reminiscent of when we lost her son Ronnie  :(
she has had bloods done and calcium etc all ok but urea up. treating her for rumen acidity now. prior to vet coming had managed to help her drink 2 L of the powder for scouring calves and she drinks well.  she is less keen on the antacid prescribed by the vet which I have to give as a drench.
been checking and giving drinks hourly since yesterday1pm when we got back.  she is still sat up, head up, ears now up.
have covered her with a blanket as her temp is low. this morning she gagged on the antacid mixture  :-\
nightmare!!
has anyone had similar situation where the goat made a good and full recovery?
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Cinderhills on October 05, 2010, 09:39:58 am
I haven't experienced this but just wanted to say hope she makes a speedy recovery.  What a worry for you.  :goat:
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 09:43:03 am
She died while I was on school run. I feel so bad. 2 I've lost to scour. I don't think I should have goats  :'(  the other 2 are fine and well and eating hay like nothings happened.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: HappyHippy on October 05, 2010, 10:14:59 am
I'm so sorry Lisa  :-* :-* :-*
I wouldn't let it put you off keeping them though - you kinda need them now  ;)
Are you going to get a pm done if the bloods don't show anything ? It might put your mind at ease.
Take care, thinking of you xxx
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 10:21:07 am
Thanks Karen  :)  yep, do kinda need them now I guess  :)  probably won't go with the PM, am pretty certain I messed up with the concentrates and because we went away I wasnt' here to pick up on signs early enough.  such a beautiful goat, only 6 years old, what a waste.
I have tonnes of her milk frozen for soap in the freezer so we have a legacy I guess that way. can't get anyone to collect her till tomorrow - and I stupidly asked what will happen to her when they do get her, big mistake.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Sharondp on October 05, 2010, 10:39:10 am
Sent you some hugs on Facebook, but sending some more here too xxxx

ETA: I bookmarked this link from another thread in case I needed it. Sorry I have to share  :'(
http://www.nfsco.co.uk/
Might be a bit quicker for you?
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 10:54:37 am
Thanks Sharon, will give it a go xx
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: little blue on October 05, 2010, 06:59:32 pm
oh, Lisa, I'm so sorry.  :( its awful to lose an animal.... you feel so responsible (even when you're not)
hugs to you, and your trainee milkers  :x
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 05, 2010, 07:44:55 pm
thank you little blue. the trainee milkers are devastated, understandably and I keep dissolving into tears - better blame pmt!
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: little blue on October 05, 2010, 08:06:03 pm
FB'ed you too!  and the wait for collection is so hard... we were "lucky" in a way with Margo that they were in the area the same day.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Brucklay on October 05, 2010, 08:13:32 pm
Not been on on for a wee bit and just seen your post and as a 'goat person' am so sorry to hear your news - wish things could have turned around for the better - all I can say is sending my good thoughts your way, Clare
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: langdon on October 05, 2010, 08:18:38 pm
sorry to read your latest news plumseverywhere :(
langdon
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 06, 2010, 08:05:25 am
Thank you x
TOday will be hard, collection man is due - I hope the children are all at school when he comes.
Feel very bad, am wondering if it was the switch from kwikbeet to speedibeet as shop had run out of KB and being daft I assumed it was almost same stuff so didnt' do slow switch over  ???
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: bazzais on October 06, 2010, 09:54:12 am
I am so sorry to hear your news :(

Barry
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Mays on October 06, 2010, 06:45:58 pm
i am so sorry to read you have lost your lovely goat :'( having had a horse & 3 sheep "collected" this summer, I know how hideously awful it is, I tend to stay in the house & not get involved, hope it wasnt too distressing for you & your family x
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 06, 2010, 06:56:09 pm
They still haven't been Mays  :(  I phoned them at 4pm to ask what time they would be coming, having been in all day, and they said they can't come now til tomorrow. very apologetic and have prioritised us. I said this is my children's pet and a much loved animal, all dignity I feel has gone out of the window for my poor girl.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: little blue on October 06, 2010, 07:33:18 pm
oh, thats terrible!  Its not like we all have a spare place to keep a corpse is it?!  poor you, and the kids
is she being taken under the scrapie scheme?
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: plumseverywhere on October 06, 2010, 08:09:58 pm
no she's not. I have stuck with the same people who took my last goat because they are always so nice but next time (and I know there will be one  :-\   ) I will use someone else recommended to me.  she's currently in the garage as its cool and she's hidden from view, still not ideal.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Anke on October 06, 2010, 08:25:22 pm
Hi Plums, just read through the thread - so sorry. Goats are just so different and with milking twice daily you build up a proper relationship with them.

It is always quite difficult to change their feeding regime, and always worries me that I don't get their usual mix (I can't store many bags due to rodents... and so have to buy a bag at a time) and then have to change abruptly. Having said that now that they are dry if I can't get it it would just be hay only for a week. I never read what it says to feed on the bag, just go by books and work out an average. My GG's are much more sensitive to overfeeding that the BT girl though, same for the kids. So I guess it depends also a bit on breed and the individual.

If she didn't have loose droppings you certainly did not overfeed her.
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: Cinderhills on October 07, 2010, 09:13:16 am
I am so sorry to hear this bad news.  Haven't been on here for a few days so sorry for the delayed response. Thinking of you. I can only begin to imagine how you must feel. Cx
Title: Re: Nanny goat down poorly
Post by: ballingall on October 07, 2010, 10:55:46 pm
Just wanted to add how sorry I am. I don't think it would have been the change from one type of beetpulp to the other though. They can scour for many reasons. I sold my big billy in July, and heard this week that he has died very unexpectedly as well :(

Thoughts with you and the children,


Beth