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Title: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 03, 2010, 04:28:06 pm
No , this is not a joke, dear friends in a more moderate climate...

I noticed today after nearly 2 weeks of heavy frost, that some of my ducks are limping. I know their webs are innervated as one was injured before - can they actually freeze off like chilblains? I'm very concerned... :&>
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: little blue on January 03, 2010, 04:32:37 pm
can you get close enough to have a good look?
It brought to mind a bit in my grandad's Pictoral Poultry book (1930s) about trimming a cockerels comb to avoid frostbite, and photos of the damage.

I really dont know how much damage their feet would withstand,  maybe they need some carpet down over the frosted ground?!
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 03, 2010, 04:54:07 pm
no, I can't get close, they are very shy. When I let them out in the morning they shoot off and stay under the hedge all day. I am waiting for a hay delivery, so I can't put anything down before it comes. Not sure if carpet would make much difference, once it starts snowing again it will be soaked through. I suppose they wouldn't have that problem with a better water supply, like a river or pond...do feel guilty for keeping them just now  :&>
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Post by: doganjo on January 03, 2010, 05:43:42 pm
Mine sit on their feet from time to time - that warms them up I think.  But I leave the pop holes open all day so they can come and go as they please.  I noticed my mother duck sitting just inside yesterday on the straw so at least she has some sense!  I noticed Jamie's comb was a bit darker at the ends - so I hope he hasn't got frostbite.  I thought they would bleed if you tried to cut them?  I'm certainly not going to try that one.
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Post by: egglady on January 03, 2010, 07:06:04 pm
we put vaseline on our chickens feet to give them a bit more protection and also lay some straw round and about so they aren't standing on the snow and ice all day.  I wonder if you catch them as they come out the coop in the morning you might be able to put some on?  (takes two people usually!)
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: doganjo on January 03, 2010, 08:47:47 pm
I've put straw down in my run too.  I saw them pecking at the straw sometimes and today I saw they had gathered a few strands together and were vying for position on it - like a wee island.  Who says chickens have no brains!
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 03, 2010, 08:56:11 pm
I'll keep the ducks in their run tomorrow, the space under their house is the only snow and ice free area, so no free ranging until it gets better! I won't attempt catching any one of them, that would traumatise them forever! The hens are just staying in their house, they are no bother... :&>
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: ballingall on January 04, 2010, 02:10:18 am
I noticed our Cayuga's decided to stay in ther house for most of today- so maybe they are fed up of ice and snow too.


Beth
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: dixie on January 04, 2010, 09:20:56 am
My ducks live out 24/7 on a large pond, they do have a house but never go in, to be honest I've never considered that their feet could freeze? The pond has been pretty much solid for a few weeks on and off with a small hole that they swim in, they run across the ice at feedtime and I havent noticed any injury?
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 04, 2010, 11:26:38 am
I couldn't leave them in the run this morning as the gate is frozen solid, so much for plans...It's not quite so bitterly cold today, I hope they will be feeling better. Not sure if they actually are injured, they look ok from a few feet away, but they obviously were in pain yesterday. Dixie, yours must be doing better as they can use their feet the way they should in the pond!  :&>
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: Lavinia on January 04, 2010, 11:28:27 am
we have only 1 drake and 1 duck at present (15 eggs in incubator sooo excited)  we have only a make shift pond at the moment to the garden bit there in gets organised in the spring. I have been defrosting it every day with fresh water and leaving there door open to the house, just been and checked them and there feet seem ok, never thought about them freezing..
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Post by: hexhammeasure on January 04, 2010, 05:55:18 pm
our ducks have found the loose hay around the feeding hecks and lie on that most of the day
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Post by: harry on January 04, 2010, 06:20:26 pm
have you ever heard of ducks frozen feet before?, if not then they probably dont, they may get a limp on hard frozen ground. chinese geese nobs can freeze ::)
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 04, 2010, 06:33:17 pm
That's a relief, Harry  ;D
I was trying to be logical - they hurt when injured and don't do what they are supposed to (swim in running water), why can they not have frostbite? But I'm glad if they can't! They were better today as not so cold . Where did you find the one with the knobs?? Google?   ;D  ::) Have to tell the boys to put it away, they are still amorous in this weather, any exercise will do I suppose to keep warm :&>
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Post by: harry on January 04, 2010, 08:13:19 pm
well its not 100 % but has anyone heard of feet freezing????? someone up north should have heard of it by now. yup chinese geese nobs can freeze, perhaps its because they wave it about all the time in the cold weather, and its about 2feet off the ground when erect
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 05, 2010, 12:22:53 pm
Harry, you were absolutely spot on - my mum told me about this radio program

http://birdnote.s3.amazonaws.com/Birdnote/2005/December/091222-Birds-Feet-Don_t-Freeze.mp3

this explains why they don't...
 and I am really relieved  :&> :&>
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: harry on January 05, 2010, 08:13:33 pm
did it say anything about nobs ;)
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Post by: scattybiker1972 on January 05, 2010, 08:49:29 pm
and to be more specific 2ft erct nobs waving in the air?  the mind boggles
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Post by: doganjo on January 05, 2010, 08:53:24 pm
No, it didn't.  Are you fixated? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Don't answer that, there may be children reading this! ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: harry on January 06, 2010, 05:00:56 pm
i get the impression that you may be getting the wrong idea, as frankie howard would say, OH NO MISSUS, its not knobs its nobs, the ones on their beaks.
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 06, 2010, 05:42:04 pm
what a difference one little k makes  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: doganjo on January 06, 2010, 05:43:20 pm
Quote
perhaps its because they wave it about all the time in the cold weather, and its about 2feet off the ground when erect

That was what led me astray I believe ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: marigold on January 06, 2010, 08:27:31 pm
I actually asked Simon to come and look at one of our ducks the other day who i was convinced for 3 minutes had had a foot frozen off. She had been limping for a few days and when I went to give her her afternoon corn she only had one leg. Yes alright, its obvious, the other one was tucked up underneath her. I did feel silly but heigh ho - it might have happened (not)
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: northfifeduckling on January 06, 2010, 08:29:14 pm
you're just pulling my leg now  ;D ;D :&>
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Post by: marigold on January 06, 2010, 08:36:25 pm
 ::) ::)Wouldn't do that.......it might fall off. ::) ::)
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Post by: doganjo on January 06, 2010, 10:44:59 pm
My hens do it too1 ;D
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Post by: jameslindsay on January 07, 2010, 09:08:56 am
I think my ducks and goose would be very miserable stuck in their paddock all day as it is so thick with ice and snow. They are desperate to get out the gate at the earliest opportunity to get on the river. It musnt be as cold on the water for them.
Title: Re: can ducks' feet freeze off?
Post by: dixie on January 07, 2010, 09:26:01 am
No and I reckon swimming must keep their circulation going, mine have managed to keep a small area of the pond unfrozen, they stay there all day, they seemed to appreciate a good layer of straw to be fed on though!