The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: shygirl on September 23, 2014, 04:52:57 pm
-
i got an email from greenpeace today...heres an extract...highway robbery if you ask me! glad it wasnt mine. ::)
I'm on top of a coal train right now with 49 ordinary people, who believe so passionately that we need to stop climate change, we've stopped a train reaching Cottam power station in Nottinghamshire. We flagged it down at 2.30pm and right now, we’re shovelling coal off the train.
It’s pretty dirty work but I’m here with good friends, and we know it’s the right thing to do.
-
they sound Barmy, no doubt they drove there… ;D
-
I admire folk that go out and work for a cause (so long as no one gets hurt). We should admire activists rather than do them down - very often they're doing our dirty work for us.
-
More info here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-29334128)
British Transport Police said it was responding to an incident.
A life-sized replica polar bear has been placed on the tracks at the front of the train, preventing it from moving.
:roflanim:
-
are they going to shift 1500 tonnes with a spade in one day? will need more 50 people, theyl be knackered :eyelashes:
-
Can't the police just move the polar bear.......I am sure plenty of Police responded to the emergency on the line.. and it can't be that heavy...can just imagine the driver reporting a polar bear on the line. At least it beats the usual "train is delayed due to leaves on the line"!
-
I admire folk that go out and work for a cause (so long as no one gets hurt). We should admire activists rather than do them down - very often they're doing our dirty work for us.
I have been a member of Green Peace for years, dragged into it by an elder brother who was an active member. I know it sounds a bit silly but if you can spare a pound a week you may actually help save this little planet of ours.
The polar bear on the line and other seemingly mad escapades are done to make people aware of what is going on.
-
Coal is used to generate, power stations, amongst other things, yet we use the electricity to communicate, via the internet that runs off electricity, as for admiring activists, i have no problem admiring their views, but their actions are normally paid by us in bigger bills, someone will , in the long run, will have to pay for the police attendance, and the coal,
look at the guy, when they broke into his Smallholding and released all the wild boar, many ended up getting shot, then there was the mink release…loads of wildlife died, and many of the mink where killed,
at the end of the day, we live in a democracy, not all laws will please everyone, so in this case, No, i don't admire the law breakers
they should be lobbying parliament every week ..we pay enough through fuel, and tax's to contribute research to help the climate ,, the funny thing is…the amount we use, would make very little difference to what China, and many of the far eastern countries use….
these activists , would have used electricity and fuel, to organise this event…the very thing produced by the material they want banned, ….total hypocrites ..
just my view ;D
-
I think it was animal rights activists who released the pigs and mink and I have scant time for them. The destructi0n of the polar ice cap will be a bit more devastating I think.
-
Sack the train driver for stopping for a stuffed bear, bloody stupid. :innocent:
-
The polar bear on the line and other seemingly mad escapades are done to make people aware of what is going on.
You'l like this then (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8knKYALDDo) Devonlady ;) .
I once went for a job interview for BP down in their corporate towers in London.
I was late getting to the interview because a couple of polar bears were guarding the entrance and not letting people in! The interviewer's opening line was "Seah, whot did you get in your hay-levels?". When I explained we did Highers in Scotland instead, he replied "My gwaandson lives in Eeeedinbrughh and heee did hay-levels. Does that mean yeww didn't gew to a pwivate skewl then?". When I said I hadn't, he responded "Eaugh. Haw dissappointing"!!
Needless to say, I didn't get the job! :roflanim:
-
The polar bear on the line and other seemingly mad escapades are done to make people aware of what is going on.
You'l like this then (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8knKYALDDo) Devonlady ;) .
I once went for a job interview for BP down in their corporate towers in London.
I was late getting to the interview because a couple of polar bears were guarding the entrance and not letting people in! The interviewer's opening line was "Seah, whot did you get in your hay-levels?". When I explained we did Highers in Scotland instead, he replied "My gwaandson lives in Eeeedinbrughh and heee did hay-levels. Does that mean yeww didn't gew to a pwivate skewl then?". When I said I hadn't, he responded "Eaugh. Haw dissappointing"!!
Needless to say, I didn't get the job! :roflanim:
;D ;D
-
I think it was animal rights activists who released the pigs and mink and I have scant time for them. The destructi0n of the polar ice cap will be a bit more devastating I think.
I do agree with the ice cap melting being devastating, but this has happened a few times before, yes i agree mankind has maybe speeded up the process, but laws are laws…activists are activists…
i have a wonderful friend, who more than likely has green piece tattooed on his chest, he is a true gentlemen and we have great debates, ;D but living in a democracy, means we can vote for change,
my biggest gripe with many of these activists are, ..they use the product that they are fighting against to promote their cause,
on face book just the other day, some girl who is a model, told me, she would not support, this ALS ice bucket challenge, simply because they experiment on animals…i just asked, has she ever researched the research on make up… thats different she said, thats part of my work….. :huff:
like i said, i have no problems with their thoughts or beliefs, but all actions , should be non hypocritical ….
-
I think it's a bit daft to suggest that climate change activists shoudl stop using electricity, frankly.
I also don't agree that just because there's a law that we should mindlessly agree with it and not protest gainst it. Otherwise, we women and most men wouldn't have the vote.
-
I think it's a bit daft to suggest that climate change activists shoudl stop using electricity, frankly.
I also don't agree that just because there's a law that we should mindlessly agree with it and not protest gainst it. Otherwise, we women and most men wouldn't have the vote.
Good point, well made.
Some so-called activists are nothing more than mercenaries, with no agenda other than doing a job they're paid to do. As far as I know, Greenpeace activists do not fall into this category.
I bet the folks on the train *do* minimise their use of fossil fuels. I have known a lot of very green people and whilst yes most do use cars when they have to, they mostly do go to some lengths to avoid doing so. (Conversions to Autogas, car sharing, using public transport unless completely infeasible, boycotting air travel, minimising the number and length of journeys, driving economically, etc, etc.) Most of them make me feel humbled by their dedication and lack of hypocrisy.
-
whether you think its daft or not, its still hypocritical….. if you believe in a cause, you should believe in it 100 percent, especially when taking action….i never said stop protesting… i have no problems with people protesting at all…. protesting and actively acting is two different things, i also didn't say, you had to like the laws…thats why i mentioned we have the VOTE… to change…..
most of us are now , through education, are doing our bit, recycling, cutting down, using solar panels, etc etc ..things are actually changing…but these things take time…i honestly think that act was pathetic, and no way do i support that type of action….if a group jumped on your livestock trailer and released the cows, sheep whatever…you would be livid, yet your fine when it comes to other peoples property…. i find that daft.
there isn't a 1/4 of the coal being used now…..so things are progressing…and here is the flip side to that coin..look how maggie was portrayed ,when she closed the remaining coal mines….. ….. not so long ago, many on here in a different subject , slated that woman for closing all the mines and making people redundant …..now your saying these people who are trying to ban the use of coal should be supported…… thats proper daft ;D
-
if you believe in a cause, you should believe in it 100 percent
I'm far too old to think I know everything ;)
IMO, a lot of the intractable issues are intractable precisely because people get stuck in these intransigent positions. It's always best when there is understanding both ways, don't you think?
-
;D this is great debate
if you had read what i wrote, sally, i did actually say, i admire their views, but not their actions,
so i do understand, but can't agree..with the actual actions
for 1 minute…just think of the train driver…he didn't know who was boarding the train, for all he knew, it could have been supporters of isis….or any other group…who is to say, that the incident, never harmed him,
they trespassed on to the lines, …..i can see what many would say if it was kids, what would have happened, if the train hadn't stopped. and maybe, just maybe, the big stuffed polar bear had hit one of the protesters, possibly killing him / her…..
i do feel all of your passions, but as i said earlier, i can actually see change happening, and it simply can't be done overnight… china, would be another issue ;D
-
if you had read what i wrote, sally,
I did, john.
I may not have completely understood what you wrote, and/or I may have interpreted it differently to how you meant it to be interpreted.
I *know* you have read this post (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=18171.msg171055#msg171055)of mine, reminding myself how uncertain is the interpretation of the written word... ;)
-
that is the problem with the written word... ;D
plus, i am a right grouch today…the stitching is rubbing against my eye, my little dog is in having his gonads snipped… the bloody solicitor hasn't given me the completion price, which i need got transferred…..
so a good dose of putting the worlds to right has done me the world of good ;D
and can you all stop bloody winking ….i feel your taking the michael ;) ;D ;D
-
;)
Just sayin' ;D
-
that is the problem with the written word... ;D
plus, i am a right grouch today…the stitching is rubbing against my eye, my little dog is in having his gonads snipped… the bloody solicitor hasn't given me the completion price, which i need got transferred…..
so a good dose of putting the worlds to right has done me the world of good ;D
and can you all stop bloody winking ….i feel your taking the michael ;) ;D ;D
lol :D
I'd send you a hug but I think you're the type prefers a bit of ribbing more.
So here's some of that:
-
even a moody old git like me enjoys a hug….now and then, not to often though..i don't want to become to soft ;D ;D
knit one pearl two…cast off ;D thats all i would hear my dear old nan say ;D
-
well some good news, kai has had the op, and doing well…. :thumbsup:
-
:hug: !
And just in case that makes you soft, :P as well ;)
-
I can see what they are trying to achieve and wish them well.
As i see it unless people stop objecting to alternative/renewable energy sources (nimby's) we are going to continue energy production in the old way.
I have heard several people supporting wind farms for energy but they don't want them where they can see them.
-
We had the Farmers' Wildlife Advisory Group respresentative walk the farm to tell us what we had on it. Inventory included 17 Small Leaved Limes, estimated to be around 1200 years old. These no longer germinate naturally in this country as they need warmer weather. So these trees would have germinated naturally when the Romans were occupying the UK. Hmm, I find it difficult to believe that the Romans had a significant carbon footprint .....
-
Every so often I get the opportunity to use the word 'specious' and am duly grateful ;D
-
I can see what they are trying to achieve and wish them well.
As i see it unless people stop objecting to alternative/renewable energy sources (nimby's) we are going to continue energy production in the old way.
I have heard several people supporting wind farms for energy but they don't want them where they can see them.
I am absolutely in favour of wind farms. I have recently seen acres of good land covered with solar panels, doing nothing but make money for someone. Windmills, on the other hand only occupy a small ammount of space. In fact, if you fastened some netting around them you could grow your runner beans up them. ;D
I know they don't meet all the needs of modern man but maybe modern man could be encouraged to use less electricity they may suffice.