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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: grumpsgarden on January 16, 2012, 05:52:06 pm
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had to take my mastif to the vets today as she has developed over xmas 3 lumps in her vain on her front leg, also sudden weight gain, wish she was eating to much she has been on restricted feed since being spayed 2 years ago so only gets a can of wet plus half can biscuits a day and 3 hours run daily no scapes or treats, well she had a blood test for her throyd and will need surgery to see what the lumps are vet said as they are hard they cant do a biopsy but will need to remove them so its a wating game now to see what the blood says before they do her surgery :-\
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Hope all is well :bouquet:
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Hope she's OK :bouquet:
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best wishes :)
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Wishing a good outcome for you all!!
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If its any help my Doberman has recently had to have lumps removed and they have turned out to be completely benign, just fatty lumps (even tho he's not remotely overweight even in vets view and not old either). Hoping you have the same cheerful outcome and only have to cry about the vet bill for the operation!
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thankly ive made sure she is well insured, thought if there where fatty the would be soft but these are very hard and painfull also in a matter of weeks have gone from pin head size to large pea size with more appearing every day and vet did say they where in her vein so not sure if these would be fatty , they want to op next week but unsure until results where in on blood to see if its her threyod playing up im hoping its that which is causing her weight gain as im unsure what else to do re her diet she weight 39kg todays so has got very over weight in the past month or so ???
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SOunds like a THyroid issue anyway, pets and children are such a worry to us......without the worry thier is no joy either!!! :bouquet:
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im hoping for that but dont know what treatment it would meen but as she is only 4 im hoping they can fix her as she is my baby and i love her just like my kids , but she acts like she getting old cant manage the stairs and gets tired easly also takes her all day to eat her meal , vet should call on thursday with the results of blood and say if they will do op next week
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It all sounds very like thyroid, but I don't know about the lumps. I do hope they can operate and it goes well. :bouquet: :bouquet:
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they worried bout her weight for the op , but vet said as soon as she felt the lumps that she will need a op and them sent away for test at least she said lumps not tumor which is what is worry me , i will post when vet calls , then it the wating game again when she has op ???
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It cant be worse for you than the not knowing, if its thyroid there is very good medication I believe; have everything crossed for some hopeful news and that the op goes smoothly :-) :hshoe:
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vet has called and her thoyd is ok , they couldnt run all there test as some of her blood clotted in the post so they have to redo it , she is booked in for op next week on tuesday , but has to go on a prescription diet for her weight and weekly weigh ins , also more test something to do with her being spayed vet said she might have some thing left behind as she doesnt realy eat enough for her to be this fat and she gets randy ,unfortly her insurance dont cover this new diet :o
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Good news on the thyroid: I feel your pain on the feeding having recently decided to switch to a properly good dog food for our two; it really really hurts the wallet!
Fingers crossed on the op :hshoe:
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she starts on it tomorrow if its in as its got to be orderd and her weekly weigh ins the cost im not to botherd well i am but my dogs health is more important then the cost :dog:
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, not the money bit but, so many humans suffer from that too, they get all sorts of funny things happen to their health and if it were dogs looking after us, moaning, sleeping, putting on weight, getting lumps and bumps, aching limbs and being a bit of a grump, they (I hope) would worry too as they may not get their walkies!!!!! Hope things improve, what a worry!
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well im now £48 pound lighter and she has her weight loss card to record what she is losing so im hoping this will work , just the op to go on her leg vet did say the lumbs are in her vein and they not fatty so she will be coverd on her insurance as it not to do with her weight gain
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Hope the £ loss is weight and not money!!!!!! FIngers crossed then!!
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so do i but she been on it a since wednsday and is very hungrey and now scrounches for food which she has never done before , i hope they weigh her tomorrow when she goes for her op wish full thinking here im hoping she has lost some weight , well the lumbs on her leg have got bigger over the week and the thired one is a lot more noticable now hopful they will give me a idea on what it might be after op tomorrow , well it looks like a big vet bill for me this time round as ive got a piggy that might have a abcess in his neck grrr need to check him in morning befor going to vets again to let vet now if there any change in him as well :'(
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thats my baby in the vets now its just a wating game for when i have to collect her, the good news is she has lost a little weight but is now very hungrey i feel cruel with her being so hungrey :'(
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Arh, we all feel like that at time with our animals and pets but its for the best...its not a great time but soon will be sorted !!!!! :wave:
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well ive collected my baby from the vets , not good news at all its 90% chance they where cancerous and nother 90% of more appering , they wernt in her vein but attached to her nerve so might have some loss of feeling in her leg , was told to give her a treat tonight and the treat she alloud is carrot sticks
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Oh that's not good news for a 4 year old dog.... hope it turns out something that can be treated without massive costs and a good quality of life for both of you....
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A worry but at least home and being loved!!!!
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We hope that your dog will be fighting fit soon!
Today lost our 14 yr old Westie this am. He has deteriorated over the last 2 months but really fell ill on Friday night. We took him to the Vet Monday am unable to walk,panting and with a very large abdomen. Vet ( like us) suspected heart failure but gave us the option to treat this. To proceed he did an ultrasound of his abdomen, chest x-ray and blood tests ( analysed on site). Excluding other causes for his large abdomen we left Lochie with the Vet for 3 hours. He had a procedure with a special machine to remove all fluid from his abdomen, started diuretics and treatment for his heart. We were gob smacked by the Vets compassion, expertise and the technology in the practice to analyse bloods and give urgent treatment and take home medication ( cost 220 Euros) .
Lochies heart failure had been missed in the UK and his special diet ( not covered by his insurance) cost a fortune and did not help him.
It was a difficult decision to opt for treatment of his heart failure as we did not know if it was end stage.
Sad loss after so many years but he died in front of the fire at home and without the incontinence and indignity that he had before the Vet helped him.
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So sad when we loose a pet but heart warming to see them go from thier home, unfortunaltly not always the case....we had a little dog run over when we did not own a car and felt it a good job he died very quicly as the trip to the vets would have been horrid and useless!!! Sad times but a good age MAK!!! We all want our pets to live a long active life, fingers crossed grumpsgarden, :bouquet:
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thank you all , im so sorry to hear of your loss mak thinking of you at this sad time :bouquet: , the lumbs where black and as she had 3 all in the same nerve its a higher chance of them reapering she goes back today to have her pressure bandage removed and hopful she will start to eat something today as well
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well got the results back its defently cancer just hoping no more lumbs apear , she now has a weaker front paw as the damged her nerve removing lumbs and hopful surranding cells
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Oh dear, that dreaded "C" word, so much can be done now so, hope for the best!!
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she will be fine as long as no more lumbs apear but vet said they prop will ,im just hoping for a few more years with her she not in any pain which is the good thing
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Im vvvvvv sorry it wasnt great news.
Take hope from the fact that you are both back home together and shes not in pain so theres not that horridness now; hopefully you will have a long time before anything comes back. Thinking of you and so is Monty 'fatty lump' Doberman and Taggie terrier.
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I know exactly how you feel GG. Freckles has had three mammary tumours removed now, and I know she runs a high risk of more appearing. But I asked them not to test them - no point to be honest, as what the treatment will be will depend on how she is feeling if any more appear.
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thank you all , im hoping as it was 3 lumbs that was removed that will be all for a little while she goes back on friday to have her stitches removed then im going to chat to vet about the change in her moods the past month she still on her diet and has lost some weight she isnt happy with her diet food but im now undecided with this as do i go back to her fatty food and make her happy or do i stick with her diet and watch her unhappy and hungrey but will it make her happy in the long run will it keep her alive so much going on in my brain cell its over heating with uncertainty
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We have to decide, i still think about my mum, she had cancer all over her and was an ALcoholic, I sooo remember nog letting her hav alcohol but giving her morphine,,,in some ways I should have bought her a bottle of wine or something as she did not live much longer...Its up to you...do what you thinK
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Oh sweatheart I am so sorry to hear about your baby. This time last year I was in your position. My little rescue westie girl developed a couple of lumps around her teats. She had developed a lump about a year before and we had it removed and tested and it was benign. This time we thought it would be the same but we were wrong. The dreaded telephone call - to say that it was "high grade mammory carsinoma".
My little girl was my baby and we sought to do anything we could to fight this. We were advised that chemo or radio therapy wasn't successful in this type of cancer and there was nothing we could do. I bought a natrual product on the net called "Essiac" which is specially for cancer but this didn't help us.
After 2 weeks of her appetite deminishing and trying everything possible to get her better we had to make the decision to send her to heaven. The most important thing for us was never to let her suffer and I know we made the right decision at the right time.
I hope so much that your baby comes through this. My friend's German Shepheard got a type of cancer and through treatment came out the other side and has been healthy ever since - so there is hope for some.
Sincerely Best Wishes
Alice x
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thank you all , im hoping as it was 3 lumbs that was removed that will be all for a little while she goes back on friday to have her stitches removed then im going to chat to vet about the change in her moods the past month she still on her diet and has lost some weight she isnt happy with her diet food but im now undecided with this as do i go back to her fatty food and make her happy or do i stick with her diet and watch her unhappy and hungrey but will it make her happy in the long run will it keep her alive so much going on in my brain cell its over heating with uncertainty
I would be finding out the nutritional makeup of the diet food and then trying to find a more palatable alternative that is as close as possible to it but which she prefers (and which may you never know be a bit cheaper!). Buying online is def cheaper and becomes a possibility too if its not something that has to be prescribed.
If you post the nutrient info of the food and the weight/cost of the sacks Im sure we can manage to find something tastier with the same weight benefits if you'd like.
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thank you lachlanandmarrcus i will def do that when ive got one of the kids to dog sit her as she is trying to eat her leg when she is left alone so a toilet break is impossiable while the kids are at school and im having to try and get my outside jobs done before they go so im in the same room as her at all times
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now i know this is going to sound realy dumb but how do i tell what her nutritional makeup is of her food the weight of the sacks is 12kg and she is alloud 315grams a day it cost £48 including vat
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It should tell you on the bag the ingredients list and also percentages of each category. Put them up here and we can see if there is anything else that might suit her and won't break the bank. Is it Hills?
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yes its hills i will get my daughter to read them of to me in the morning as i cant see such small writing , my dog nicked some bread tonight will that afect her diet as i dont know if its fatting the vet said she can have carrot sticks as treats but she dont like much veg unless its coverd in dog food so im struggling to get her to eat it there where pleased with the fact she has lost some weight she did weigh 39.8 she now weighs 38.9 but i think thats more due to the fact she not realy eating she will eat all thats down for her every other day , she might be weight again on friday when she goes to hopful have stitches out unless she has done some damage by eating her leg today it looks sore and not healed yet unlike the one on her paw which looks good :(
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Has your vet not given you a buster collar to stop her chewing her leg? You can use spray on elastoplast on it to help heal it - it will nip for a second or to, but it will also put her off with the smell and taste.
Bread, rice and pasta have carbohydrates(lots of calories) - that is fattening. For one of mine that got overweight after an operation I puréed cooked vegetables and mixed that in with her food and managed to get 2 kgs off her in 2 weeks, and maintain the weight loss till she was back exercising again. Wish I had the will power for myself too ;D
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they otherd me a buster collar unfortnal when she was spayed we found out she was so scared of them our vet at the time had to give her something to calm her down after wearing it for a little while , so it was out of the question this time she is just so scared of things was told to watch her 24/7 which was fine right up to family had to go home then i forgot that to do outside animals would leave her on her own as she not aloud out there to much mud , so its been rather long days trying to get all my outside jobs done before 8am so kids can go to school then back out when they get home to do the afternoon feeding and cleaning then im up most of the night making sure she dont eat her leg , so the bread i will need to make sure the kids have put it away its the first time she has nicked food from the side be glad when her stitches are out then i can get some sleep and back to normaly job hours the animals will like it better then getting there breakfast so early and there tea so late
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My heart goes out to you. Like so many others who've responded I too have just been going through this. I lost one of my flatcoats early last year to cancer and my other one, Harry, had lumps which turned out to be fatty and is on a diet now.
We've been feeding Royal Canin Satiety Support which is higher in fibre (32% more but low density) to make them feel fuller - he also finds it very tasty as it has a high chicken content. Over the past 5 months he's gone from 43kg to 37kg with no hunger issues (although a new puppy has helped) and looks very fit. We fed about 300g a day split into three meals (because of the puppy) and the bag lasts over 6 weeks. There are usually lots of internet offers aswell. The vet nurse gave us a plastic measuring cup which has helped keep the amounts correct and we also used raw carrot as treats.
Although you are being bombarded with lots of practical advice, I hope you are also getting the sympathy we all feel for your situation, some days it is just really hard!
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Have you looked to buy the food online? i buy Hills JD for my Lab on line much cheaper, Royal canin diets are very good, they don't make them poo as much as Hills RD and i found then to fill the dogs up. Also feeding several meals helps. Good luck