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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: CameronS on November 04, 2010, 04:52:49 pm
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I have a couple of hens who are starting to look really ill, they are exbarn layers and have not been used to the fluxuating temprature, i started with 6 and now have 3, :'(
if things get much worse i have to consider dispatching them, normally i shoot them or get some one else to pull their necks, this time shooting is not an option as dad is away and i have no access, and as dad is away he cannot pull their necks.
the deed falls on me
what is the best way to do the deed?
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I have a humane despatcher screwed to the side of a shed. It's less unpleasant than wringing their necks, and it's quick.
John
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How do humane dispatchers work? and how much do they cost
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Have a look in the Ascott online catalogue - this shows you a picture of the wall mounted despatcher at £29.99p
http://www.ascott.biz/acatalog/Humane-Wall-Mounted-Dispatcher-PY91.html
It's not the only solution, but it's simple & works.
John
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we've just invested in a hand held despatcher. but not needed to use it yet. think it was £14 (but could have just made that up!)
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I use an electric stunner, very expensive but very effective. I found the wall-mounted "neck-breaker" type didn't work every time and that can be distressing for dispatcher and dispatchee!
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We use the broom handle method,I have found it works better than the humane despatcher (but I am not sure I have it set right). I used it once and though wow that was quick only to find that the hen was still alive!!
There are various ways if you need to do it by hand, but the broom handle goes on a flat surface, you place the chickens head underneath, with the underside of the beak laying flat on the floor. Position the handle as close to the skull as possible, the pull up and twist at the same time, when you first do it you will either pull off the head or not do it strong enough, in which case the chicken wont be dead, go for the stronger option for the first time to stop any suffering, until you have done it once you wont be able to gauge it.
If you pick up the chicken while its alive and have a good feel at the neck and skull structure you will feel that what you are aiming to do is 'pop' the head away from the spine.
The other method I was taught is to tie up a piece of string on a beam so that when then chicken is tied upside down by its feet, the head will be just at the level of your hands when they are by your side. You then cup the head in your hands and push down and twist, this is more complicated to explain that it actually is to do it!!
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i just use a broom stick and is very cost effective and very reliable i get a kill 100% no hiccups no nothing brrom stick = dead i always have an axe at the ready as i always like to have a back up just in case just make sure your on concrete and your sorted
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When I had to do this on my own I use my OH's small but very sharp axe. It is a bit messy but quick and dead-certain (sorry). And I can do it by myself.
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i have to say i admire you all greatly, i have been following this thread with much interest, and it has made me think it is something i suppose i should be able to do, but im really not sure i could.
But it has got me thinking that if ever any of my hens were ill i would not want them to suffer and doing the deed would be the kindest thing, so this has got me soul searching.
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I have got one of the Ascott wall mounted dispatchers, but having read the Humane society stuff about various methods was unsure how much they suffer, so now I have a short piece of 2x2" and give them a sharp whack on the back of the head then immediately use the dispatcher. I also leave the neck in the dispatcher till all nerve reaction (fluttering) has stopped so I am absolutely certain there can be no mistakes.
I feel more confident of "doing the deed" now if I have a bird I think needs to be culled as I feel they don't even know what is going to happen, and I think it is not any worse to them than just picking them up carrying them across the yard
All the best
Sue
Dark Brown Eggs
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I have tried for two days now to dispatch one if my cockerels. I catch it, hold it upside down, feel sorry for it and let it go. Help!
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i think that is what i would do, will be interested to see what answers you get :wave:
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I have tried for two days now to dispatch one if my cockerels. I catch it, hold it upside down, feel sorry for it and let it go. Help!
do the axe method then you can't chicken out.
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I have tried for two days now to dispatch one if my cockerels. I catch it, hold it upside down, feel sorry for it and let it go
ditto
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i do it by hand but i used to have a short peice of wood bout 18" bout 1 1/2 " round they call em a preist (reads the animal its last rights) quick blow to back of head job done very quick and very humane
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I have tried for two days now to dispatch one if my cockerels. I catch it, hold it upside down, feel sorry for it and let it go
ditto
I think it comes down to this...
do you think the bird is suffering...if so, take a deep breath and do the deed, come inside and pour yourself a stiff drink :) you will feel better knowing you did the right thing rather than allow the bird to suffer
if it is a 'surplus' cockerel... think about the lovely life he has had in comparison with shop bought chicken, think about the complaints from your neighbours, and the bill from the vet if you 'chicken' out and get him PTS... then take a deep breath and do the deed, come inside and pour yourself a stiff drink ;D you will feel better knowing you did were able to give the bird a dignified life and death, and hopefully, he will not go to waste and be appreciated as a lovely dinner.
Cameron - hopefully at such a momentous occasion your mum will pour the stiff drink for you ;D
And, this is all coming from a vegetarian who culled her first hen a couple of months ago when it was poorly. I used the broomstick method which wasn't pleasant or probably as quick as it would have been in the hands of an experienced person, but once I'd stopped shaking I did feel better knowing that I had done the right thing. As it was about 6.30 am I didn't pour myself a stiff drink, but I certainly felt like I needed one! ;D
And I have surplus cockerels who I plan to eat when they are big enough! If I am brave enough!! ;D
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Tomorrow is D day, i can't let things go on longer :'(
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plan it. then get it done. don't think about it just do it. what we do is we have a catcher im no good at that. they bring it in and then i do the deed. there is no waiting. it really is easier than you think but still not enjoyable.
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hope it goes ok cameron
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Hope it goes well, Cameron, you will feel better once it's done. :)
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I despatched a cockerel last week and it was not pleasant never is but I catch them and do it quick. I use broomstick method and I try not to think too much about it. Get everything prepared before and just do it mechaniclly it really is easier than you think. Good luck.
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one more bit of advice is if you eat them prepare some where to hang them or stick them in an upturned road cone it will stop the bruising of the meat when the spasam