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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: langdon on April 30, 2010, 05:36:15 pm

Title: millys cough
Post by: langdon on April 30, 2010, 05:36:15 pm
molly has had a cough now for a while, it mostly comes when she has a run around the place and
sometimes just when she is still, but as said when she runs with milly.
what do i need to do?
poor molly she just seems to be getting the rough end of the stick.
milly bless her has'nt had a complain since she has arrived.
any help as you guys know, will be app ;)
langdon
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: Roxy on April 30, 2010, 05:38:02 pm
Langdon .....not another ailment for your goat, surely?

Have you wormed them .....I am sure you have?  Is the hay dusty at all?  or it may well be due to all the dry weather we have had recently.

Should the title be Mollys cough - its her that you always seem to have a worry about?

Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on April 30, 2010, 06:51:43 pm
ya sorry its molly.
goats got wormed on the 24/2/10.
previous worming was on the 18/12/09.
as said she has been coughing like this since thet arrived.
landon :(
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on April 30, 2010, 07:21:14 pm
just sitting at table and looking out the window,
when cars go past the goat area they leave a cloud of dust behind,
do you think this could cause a goat to cough?
just trying to find other answers to mollys cough as she has been wormed twice since been with us.
langdon ;) :goat:
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on April 30, 2010, 07:26:09 pm
what is this fluke thing with regarding goats,
does normal worming treat this thing or is it a treatment in its self?
langdon :) :goat:
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: Anke on April 30, 2010, 09:25:43 pm
You will need a specific wormer for fluke, Fasimex is used for sheep (fluke only). But only use it if you need it, the vet should be able to give you a syringe full, as it is sold in huge bottles. Its given as a drench.

Are Milly and Molly sisters an dhave been brought up together so far? If its only one that is coughing it might just be that she is more sensitive, and dusty hay/allergy could well be the cause. If your goat house would be damp then both of them would be coughing, so not sure what that could be.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: Roxy on May 01, 2010, 12:07:05 am
Fluke affects certain parts of the country more - caused by snails, I think.  There would be other symtoms besides a cough, such as lethargic, poor condition, not eating etc.  Sheep seem more prone to it.  I can't see your goat having that, but I think the vet can test for it if need be.
It affects the liver.

I have never seen a goat with it, but yes, they can get it.  I would not worry about that being the cause of the cough though.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: ballingall on May 01, 2010, 10:22:35 am
I have seen goats with it, and they can show symptoms quite suddenly. We only learnt about Fluke after moving here, and we nearly lost a pregnant Anglo-Nubian to it, but managed to save her (and one of her kids which she had 2 weeks early). However, Langdon it is caused by snails, and you just won't get them on gravel- they like lots of soggy wet ground with grass.

I don't think you will need to dose for it Langdon. But it can creep up on you if you aren't aware of it and have your goats on damp ground. We have to dose twice a year now.


Beth
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: doganjo on May 01, 2010, 12:57:58 pm
I know this is a wild card, but - it's not her heart is it?  A cough in dogs (and humans I believe) can mean a heart problem like a leaky heart valve.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on May 01, 2010, 03:47:07 pm
i hope not :(
isnt it funny how one is as healthy as could be and the other has these complains.
everyone on ere must think that i make up these complaints about her!
i really hope this is not the case.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: doganjo on May 01, 2010, 05:20:31 pm

everyone on ere must think that i make up these complaints about her!
i really hope this is not the case.
Of course not, Langdon.  You care as we all do on here.  I hope it isn't her heart, as I said it was along shot.  Probably something simple.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: plumseverywhere on May 01, 2010, 07:38:03 pm
Try not to worry Langdon,  you do love your goats and because you spend so much time with them you pick up on these worries (same as I do - I panic over every little thing!)
I know with nursing humans a cough can indicate cardiac problems but as the others have said it can just as easily be dust from hay or something. maybe get the vet to have a look put your mind at rest.
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on May 02, 2010, 09:41:55 am
funny that both of us are looking after animals now, i used to be an auxillary nurse for three 3yrs in a community
hospital and a care worker in a number of care homes.
i nearly went on to do my nurse training.
allthough im sure i will never go back to caring, i do have fond memories it was nice to be able to do something
for the older generation.
hope things are ok with you now ;)
langdon
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: plumseverywhere on May 02, 2010, 10:58:07 am
That is a coincidence! I enjoyed nursing (I specialised in Gynae and was sister of a ward until my 2nd daughter came along then became district nurse until I had my 3rd!)
there's something lovely about caring for animals after having done so for humans I think - frustrating that they can't tell you whats  wrong but at the same time an unspoken love and gratitude back from them. can't quite put my finger on it!  I am still sole carer for a very disabled mum (MS) she lives downstairs in our house so I think the animals are my solace and great stress relief (most of the time when they are not ill!).
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on May 02, 2010, 02:47:10 pm
your mum sounds like she is in great hands ;)
i find a smallholding is something special, the other day i felt like i was a child again in
my own playground only this time it has mud, dirt, smell and what have you!
i started to feed the girls on that speedibeet, hope it sorts them out and i made another hay feeder for them.
talk later :goat:

Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: Roxy on May 02, 2010, 11:34:23 pm
You know Langdon, you really care about your animals - thats obvious from your concern for them, and questions about them too.  No one will think you make up the complaints about your goat - they would just think you are a caring owner!!!

Hopefully Mollys cough will go away.  Horses get coughs sometimes, and molasses, or treacle in water helps to get rid of the tickle in their throat.  In fact, I caught a friend giving her horse who had a cough, some golden syrup cake one day!!!
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on May 04, 2010, 06:04:54 pm
thanks roxy ;) :goat:
Title: Re: millys cough
Post by: langdon on May 04, 2010, 06:26:01 pm
just been looking up goats with coughs, interesting.
it talked alot about goats that have coughs usually  have a temp maybe, sometimes nose discharge and a rattle noise
coming from lung if its a problem there.
well molly has none of these(thank god :D).
it also talked about lung worm and maybe changing the worming product that one uses.
i have used panacur twice on the girls, if i were to try a different one that is really effective for goats which one would it be?.
it also said that if the cough has been going on for a long time with no other serioius problems following it might not be an illness at all.
what do you think roxy?
poor molly she has'nt had it good so far on the ' funny farm ' :(
p.s. they love the kwikbeet!!  :goat:
langdon ;D