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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: lotte on July 12, 2012, 09:40:04 am
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Help please!! My female kune kune came in last week excessively bloated. We have tried cooking oil and liquid parafin and the vet has given it multi vits and something that helps colic. She has not eaten for 2 days now, was only eating apples since coming in last week. She is going mad over a mineral bloke and water, regularly wormed but can't stand due to the weight of this blating!! She did poo after liquid parafin but vet has no idea what to do as you can't pop them like sheep or cows. We are running out of options please any advice. Due to the weather we have a mass of lush grass which they think is fermenting in her tum!!
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is it pregnant :farmer:
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Definiterly no!! All boers been castrated years ago and it went out in the field in the morning fine and came in huge!!
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I'm really sorry to hear about your pig :( Must be really worrying for you.
I'm afraid I've not come across this with pigs (had a dog once who got badly bloated, vet reckoned he'd eaten a frog or toad and it had swollen inside him :-\)
As long as she's still drinking the only thing I could suggest would be some fresh fruit juice/melon/pineapple to try and flush whatever the issue is out of her system. If she's up for it, you could try massaging her tummy to help her pass gas, but if she's feeling rotten she might not take well to it :-\
I could try sending her some reiki - but you'd need to email me a photo of her, your location (not exact, just the name of your town or county) her name and age. My email is kkjmckay@aol.com but hopefully someone will be along soon who's had a similar situation and can shed a bit more light on it for you. :fc:
Karen :wave:
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Sadly just been to check her and she died...... :'(
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:bouquet: sorry you lost her.
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Oh, thats a real shame. Will you have a PM done? It would be good to know why she died.
Sally
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How sad, poor girl. :(
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sorry you lost her :'(
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poor u, when animals are really sick they do go for the water obsessively.
sad x :bouquet:
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Thanks everyone!! Am more cross the vet so hopeless and realised that he never even took her temperature, so maybe she had an internal infection?? Also she bleed loads when in season and now wondering if it was distended rather than bloated and maybe it was her womb filled with pus?? Mu only concession was I saw her at 4 pm and she was lying flat down and when I checked her an hour latter she had obviously just gone in her sleep and I didn't have to have her put down which is much much worse..... Am gutted though, we have lost so many animals this year!!
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Feel so sorry for you - we felt the same when we lost a sow last year. Perhaps having a PM would help in providing an answer as to what happened. In our case it cost just the same as having her disposed of at an authorised knackeryard, and the vets at the laboratory took a much more detailed history than our vet had ever done. Tamsaddle
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I am sorry to hear your news but she is not suffering now. My OH has lots of experience with pigs but he has never seen bloat. Poor girl.
I was really worried that your vet didn't know what it was. My vets would have been ringing other experts in the field. They don't have all the answers about donkeys, but they know to ask the donkey sanctuary.
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So sorry you lost her Lotte :'(
I'd tend to agree with the others and ask (insist even) that a pm is done - it does sound like your vet's been a bit clueless (especially if they didn't even take her temp >:() so hopefully they'd see it as an opportunity to learn and improve - if they don't then I'd say it's time to find another vet :-\
Karen :-*
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:bouquet:
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Sorry to hear your loss its terrible but at least she went peacefully and thats a blessing. :bouquet:
Oe thing i would suggest for future reference is to buy your own digital thermomenter they cost about seven quid from fearings i think and are an invaluable aid to deciding whetehr to get the vet in or not. A raging temeprature is always a give away that something is very wrong and its an easy thing to do yourself.
Clover my GOS farrowed on Tuesday 11 piglets, yesterday morning she wouldn't eat her breakfast so the first thing i did was take her temp, it was normal (38.9 degc) and she was just a bit mopey so eft her breakfast with her, at lunchtime she'd eaten a little food but still off colour, temperature taken again showed normal so not unduly worried by teatime she was raveneous. I suspect that i had given her too much food the day before and she had become just 'overfaced' with it so i cut back her ration and divided it into four small feeds, thismorning shes back to her normal vociferous, arsy self, seargenat majoring her piglets like little soldiers, don't dare come out that creche til i'm rady for you! ;D
Anyway buy a thermometer and it will help greatly.
All the best
mandy :pig:
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just in case it happens i wondered what has to be done if a pig drops dead.... can i take it somewhere or does it have to be collected what are the regs
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Harry :wave:
You are not allowed to move it from your land or dispose of it yourself anymore. You must have it collected by your local, licensed "knackers". Same goes for any dead piglets, as you will need to keep the collection slip cross-referenced against your Herd Register. You may be lucky enough to have a local licensed Hunt Kennels that may collect them for the dogs, but most won't use pigs, only sheep or calves. The only concession is if your vet takes anything away for a PM, them they dispose of it in their controlled waste.
I use Greyhills & they charge £8.50 per collection, though it was cheaper if you were already part of the Fallen Stock Scheme.
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you can also have a licenced incinerator :farmer:
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can u not take the body urself to SAC for post mortem?
i cant imagine my vets taking a dead body in their shiny 4x4's.
a friend of mine took her goat herself, iv only took a rabbit ::)
our knackerman is good and quick, great source of gossip...tut tut...but 60p a piglet u cant complain.
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We took our dead sow to the laboratory for her PM ourselves, immediately after she was put down, so she was there within 1.5 hours. The vets said this was OK, and as I said in an earlier post, it cost us almost exactly the same as getting the official knackers to take her away, a very big girl about 250 kg, only difference was I paid for the diesel to drive her over to the lab, not a big deal. Tamsaddle
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How much does a pm cost?? It cost me £30 to have her taken to the incinerator!!
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:bouquet: sorry about your pig. Its 'orrible when they die. >:(
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i think the initial tests are highly subsidied then if u want more detail if costs more.
i think our rabbit was £30 or so. never had anything else pm-ed