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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: lou995 on March 23, 2013, 09:22:37 pm

Title: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: lou995 on March 23, 2013, 09:22:37 pm
Evening all  :wave:

I'm new to the sheep side of things, i worked on a dairy farm for the last 7 years so well aware of dry cow management and calving however sheep are a whole new ball game! I've got 6 Southdown ewes that all should be in lamb. Potentially lambs could start arriving after this weekend(assuming they go 145days) One ewe is bagging up well now, are there any warning signs i can look for before i see signs of starting to lamb? I understand that breeds are probably all different and the individual sheep may give hints or not, would be nice to be half a step infront of them! :innocent: ;D
I was supposed to be attending an 'lambing for smallholders' but the college cancelled due to lack of interest! So i'm throwing myself in at the deep end and will generally treat them as miniature cows if i have to assist lambing!
Keeping them in over night now and daytime if weather bad. Adlib hay available always, lifeline lick.
4 shearlings 2 BIG ewe lambs.

Thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: thenovice on March 23, 2013, 09:35:41 pm
Im no expert, but my first experience of lambing last year was with southdowns. They are a wonderfully docile breed, and they make good, milky mums. I would be careful about not giving too much hay as you get close to lambing, it can lead to prolapse. Also with the shearlings being first time mums, it may be a bit of a shock for them, so id keep an eye on the ladies. It it just my opinion, but as a breed, they are not always the easiest of lambers, so if you can get a little hands on instruction from a local flock its a definite bonus. Contact the breed secretary, they are very helpful. Good luck  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 23, 2013, 09:38:34 pm
Lou, do you have a good book?
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: Brucklay on March 23, 2013, 09:48:02 pm
Spend as much time as you can watching them - you sill see the signs - then they will keep you waiting a week!!
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: lou995 on March 23, 2013, 09:58:51 pm
Thanks,
I've got the 'Sheep Health, Husbandry and Disease' book, just thought i'd ask for a bit of breed specific info on here.
Checking them regularly but working on the theory a continuously watched sheep never lambs.! ;)
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: Brucklay on March 23, 2013, 10:15:35 pm
Your probably right there - since our first lambs three days ago I'm on 2/3 hourly checks apart from 1.00 -5.30 and no more yet - if I miss one... But so snowy just can't.
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: Hillview Farm on March 24, 2013, 08:23:18 am
I also work on a dairy farm and i've got my own flock. I've found everything is rather simular, In some cases its slightly different but reguarding the lambing side of things its the same principle. They need to be in the same position as a calf and they need their colostrum just like a calf.

The only things I had to learn was feeding pregnant ewes and whats meds and wormers to use (still not sure on whats what sometimes but hey ho!)

Good luck! :fc:
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: ScotsGirl on March 24, 2013, 09:14:08 am
I agree with thenovice they are slightly more difficult I think because a bit more chunky and small pelvis/womb.  Be careful if you have to assist and push lamb back. Make sure you rope head/legs before you do as I had a disaster other year when I didn't and head went back. No room with twins to manipulate and I ended up losing the lot.


They do lamb earlier, 145/146 days consistently and usually look agitated and uncomfortable. Depending how tame they are I found my difficult one this year lambed best ever while I was asleep! Kept her legs crossed every time I checked the at about 4am out they popped. I only knew when others woke me up with their calling cos one lamb had crawled through bars.
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 24, 2013, 12:09:55 pm
I have a flock of Southdowns and find people often feed them too much during pregnancy. They keep their condition much better than many breeds and the combination of big lambs and too much  body fat is bad for any breed.  If they've originally come from a flock run on commercial lines, with relentless culling for anything less than all-round good performance, they probably have less problems than many breeds, as they have much narrower shoulders and a longer neck than, say, the Texel or Beltex.   Mine began lambing six days early this year - first day should have been tomorrow and have so far had triplets, two sets of twins and a single - all lambed themselves and had vigorous lambs up and suckling within 15 minutes.  Look out for a hollow in front of the pelvis - more noticeable in Down breeds than most others.  Standing under a hayrack or in a quiet corner looking thoughtful. Holding out the tail or squatting but not dunging or peeing.  Lifting upper lip.  Pawing the ground and turning around. 
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: SteveHants on March 24, 2013, 06:50:35 pm
I have a flock of Southdowns and find people often feed them too much during pregnancy. They keep their condition much better than many breeds and the combination of big lambs and too much  body fat is bad for any breed.


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Condition score 2 is absolutely fine for a ewe due to lamb. Overfeeding seems to lead to complications. I don't have any Southdowns, but I think the advice above is good whatever breed you have.
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: lou995 on March 25, 2013, 06:54:55 pm
Thanks all  :thumbsup:

pics should be of the closest to lamb, think shes holding on for warmer weather.
Any guesses for how close she could potentially be?
 (sorry pics come up huge,will look into re-sizing)
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 25, 2013, 07:16:35 pm
Wouldn't like to guess - depends on the individual.  I've had ewes waddling around looking like an overstuffed sofa for weeks before lambing and ewes so slim that we suspected they might have reabsorbed their scanned lambs, then give birth two days later!   
Title: Re: Sheep advice please- run up to lambing!
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 25, 2013, 07:17:48 pm
Wouldn't like to guess - depends on the individual.  I've had ewes waddling around looking like an overstuffed sofa for weeks before lambing and ewes so slim that we suspected they might have reabsorbed their scanned lambs, then give birth two days later!

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