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Title: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 02:07:42 pm
By popular demand we've enabled a feature to allow you to ignore posts by other members. If you ignore a member you will still see their name and the position of their posts in threads, but the text of their post will be hidden.

You can edit your ignore list through this route (or just click the last link):

Profile > Modify Profile > Buddies/Ignore List > Edit Ignore List (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore)

You'll see a list of members you ignore and a box to add members to your list - just start to type the member's name into the box and a list will appear, select the member and click Add.

Any problems just ask here or PM me.  :)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Bionic on May 30, 2012, 02:19:23 pm
Thanks Dan, although I hope I won't need to use it
Sally
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on May 30, 2012, 02:30:49 pm
hee hee, hope I dont get blocked too much!
In jest, maybe there ought to be a feature where the blocked person sees how many people have blocked their posts (not the names just a total) and so they gradually begin to realise as the total goes higher and higher that maybe their words of wisdom could be better worded :-DDD
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 30, 2012, 03:01:47 pm
Dan I find that a little distasteful and not in the spirit of the forum. Surely if you are not interested in someones opinion you just don't bother reading it.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 03:17:50 pm
Dan I find that a little distasteful and not in the spirit of the forum. Surely if you are not interested in someones opinion you just don't bother reading it.

There's no compulsion to use it, and we have had requests from members who have said this feature would be useful and make a difference to their experience on the forum. If you don't use it, it has no effect on your forum experience.

If there is just one member on here who finds the forum a more pleasant place because, for whatever reason, they can suppress another member's posts, I think it's worthwhile and not at all distasteful. In an ideal world everyone would get along and feel able to voice concern about other members' behaviour, but not everyone is comfortable doing that.

We rely heavily on members to self-moderate, and to challenge and report unacceptable behaviour when self-moderation doesn't work. We're very open to suggestions about improvements we can make to moderation - if anyone wants to help out with moderation, or there are other things we can do to improve, please shout!  :)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 30, 2012, 04:20:17 pm
Quote
Thanks Dan, although I hope I won't need to use it

 ???  Who said that?   ???

(Just kidding  :wave: :-*   :D)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: doganjo on May 30, 2012, 05:51:34 pm
I'm afraid I agree with Berkshire Boy.  I think this is just a step too far.  If you don't want to interact with starngers in the street you just walk past them.  Same on here.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: YorkshireLass on May 30, 2012, 06:23:33 pm
Not necessarily. My eyes are hard-wired to read before my brain's caught up, if that makes sense. I've used a similar feature on other forums that had no moderation, where those particular posters were dragging something off topic, or simply being vile.
No one here has ever had that effect on me though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on May 30, 2012, 07:05:32 pm
I dont see why the feature being available should be a problem tho we can choose not to use it if we dont agree with it.
Not sure how necessary it is given moderation but it might be a way to try and reduce the workload of moderators.
I think if I found someones posts offensive then I would more want to see them not less as otherwise they could just spout poison without me knowing. But noones done that on here, just a few threads with strong views where maybe 'agreeing to disagree' would have been the right outcome earlier than it was.
 
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: deepinthewoods on May 30, 2012, 07:31:31 pm
blocking someones posts by username would not remove the post from the forum, there was an incident a little while ago where someone called someone else  an idiot and the perpetrator was either removed or removed themself. the post still stands tho.
i think this is a quite wierd development, and not something ive heard of before. ive yet to see a post that has affected my enjoyment of the site apart from the one mentioned above. some forums get spammed constantly, with inciteful and offencive posters doing it just because they can, ive yet to see that here thankfully.
i appreciate that some of my more opinionated posts could be 'challenging' to some viewers but i dont spam others threads and im never rude, id like to think that if my posts were interpreted as such, i would be told. as yet i havent  been.
 
this could cause alot of confusing responses.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: bloomer on May 30, 2012, 07:37:49 pm
its a common feature on less passive sites than this, there is a site i go on where i love some of the content but some of the posters are over opinionated ill educated idiots, they are on my block list so i only see the good stuff!!!



Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: chrismahon on May 30, 2012, 07:59:02 pm
Seems a shame that it is necessary. Wouldn't it be better just to remove the offenders completely?
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: jaykay on May 30, 2012, 08:25:46 pm
I haven't found anyone here offensive and hope I haven't offended anyone.


But - we're all different personalities and wherever there are several folk gathered together there will be differences. If some people feel happier not seeing another one's posts, well they're happier, the rest of us are none the wiser since we can still see the posts....win-win as far as I can see?
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 30, 2012, 08:41:40 pm
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Rosemary on May 30, 2012, 09:12:45 pm
Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: doganjo on May 30, 2012, 10:08:50 pm
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
I think oysters are all forgettable ;D  with or without grit  ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: deepinthewoods on May 30, 2012, 10:11:20 pm
and i love them, see, isnt this great.xx
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Greenerlife on May 30, 2012, 10:27:45 pm
Different strokes for different folks!


I think this is a great move.  i won't block anyone, because nobody here offends me.  I have had issues with some postings here but not comsistently, but can completely understand if someone wants to block aanothers postings as I have seen it in action on another forum and it works well!
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: suziequeue on May 30, 2012, 10:29:23 pm
Well I'll certainly be using the feature.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 10:33:55 pm
Just to reiterate, if you don't use this feature then nothing at all changes.

We won't be monitoring who uses it, or who is being ignored - the intention is not to drum out 'problem' members, but to provide those who want it the ability to improve the forum in their eyes. :)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 30, 2012, 10:59:31 pm
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
I think oysters are all forgettable ;D  with or without grit  ;)

A honeymoon couple ordered a platter of a dozen oysters on their wedding night.  The following morning, the concierge asked, with a knowing grin, how they had enjoyed their oysters.  "Well," said the bride, "they were alright, but only 9 of them worked."
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Fleecewife on May 30, 2012, 11:15:56 pm
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
I think oysters are all forgettable ;D  with or without grit  ;)

A honeymoon couple ordered a platter of a dozen oysters on their wedding night.  The following morning, the concierge asked, with a knowing grin, how they had enjoyed their oysters.  "Well," said the bride, "they were alright, but only 9 of them worked."

Sall-eee  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Lesley Silvester on May 30, 2012, 11:18:29 pm
 ;D ;D ;D  Love it.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: suziequeue on May 31, 2012, 07:15:23 am
Hee Hee hee
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: tizaala on May 31, 2012, 07:42:46 am
It's a good job I'm not a sensitive soul, this lot could give me a persecution complex, I mean, If you want to get rid of me just say so, don't just run and hide behind a keyboard.
Disgusted, ( RN. RET. )
Tunbridge Wells
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: robert waddell on May 31, 2012, 08:30:19 am
well said :farmer:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Rosemary on May 31, 2012, 08:33:53 am
It's a good job I'm not a sensitive soul, this lot could give me a persecution complex, I mean, If you want to get rid of me just say so, don't just run and hide behind a keyboard.
Disgusted, ( RN. RET. )
Tunbridge Wells

What does RN, RET mean?
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: robert waddell on May 31, 2012, 08:44:45 am
just guessing   royal navy retired :farmer:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: tizaala on May 31, 2012, 08:46:27 am
Rosemary, Years ago you used to get professional complainers writing to the editor of the Times / Telegraph , etc about newspaper articles , they were nearly all ex-millitary , Brigadiers, Generals, Air Vice Marshalls, but the very belicose ones were always Admirals or at least Captains ( RN, RET ) = Royal Navy , Retired.
And nearly always from Tunbridge Wells.
 
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: The Woodsiders on May 31, 2012, 08:57:15 am
Sally I love your quote, I am going to pinch it, (hope you do`nt mind)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: tizaala on May 31, 2012, 09:02:40 am
Just another thought , they probably gathered in Tunbridge to be amongst like minded dinosaurs , you wouldn't want to be in the post office queue on pension day in the fifties with them.
While I'm at it, can we have a ' tongue in cheek ' emoticon please Dan, I think I need one .
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: jaykay on May 31, 2012, 09:03:39 am
 ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: robert waddell on May 31, 2012, 09:07:05 am
 :farmer: that is funny your observations tizala
there was a club i was a member of and on the commite          also on the commite was this bombastic barsteward that was a retired submariner and he was a computer whizz kid as well but i got the better of him when he was the forum administrator  after many years that club is now rid of him and he cost them a fortune with his woolly ideas that nobody  except myself would stand up against
mobile radios were his pet thing so he pushed through buying 5 second hand radios half the price of new ones only to discover that they did not cover the frequency's required     so they had to get new innards and cost a lot more than if they had bought brand new     they were later stolen out another commite members car and could not claim the insurance  so had to buy another 5 radios  :D :D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: plumseverywhere on May 31, 2012, 09:07:38 am
From experience on FB, the person who does the 'blocking' really see's a fragmented conversation though! I've blocked the people who threatened to come and turn my goats into curry as well as other ridiculous threats (they are well known for being a bit odd) but it means if I'm reading a status by a mutual friend it looks like said friend is talking to themself as you can't see blocked person's comments!


Personally I don't think I'll need to use it on here, its great to have the option but I don't find anyone as objectionable as said goat-threateners here on TAS - obviously a nicer type of person frequents TAS  ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2012, 09:10:15 am
While I'm at it, can we have a ' tongue in cheek ' emoticon please Dan, I think I need one .

This is the best I can find. If I had the time (oh, and the talent) I'd make a new one just for you!  :-J
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2012, 09:13:32 am
From experience on FB, the person who does the 'blocking' really see's a fragmented conversation though! I've blocked the people who threatened to come and turn my goats into curry as well as other ridiculous threats (they are well known for being a bit odd) but it means if I'm reading a status by a mutual friend it looks like said friend is talking to themself as you can't see blocked person's comments!

The way it works on here is not to remove the posts entirely - you still see that a post has been made, with the poster's name, it's just the content that's hidden. There's a link against each hidden post that lets you see the content in context.

I'm not explaining that very well, just see the attached screenshot where I've (temporarily) ignored Tizaala.  ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: plumseverywhere on May 31, 2012, 09:21:39 am
Ah that's really good! At least you have the option then,


Ooh another new emoticon - just GOT to use that one - Dan you are Soooo clever  :eyelashes:    - love it!
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: robert waddell on May 31, 2012, 09:48:07 am
Dan the emotion that you put on could be sexually misconstrued  or is just that the way my mind works :farmer:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: plumseverywhere on May 31, 2012, 10:04:43 am
Dan the emotion that you put on could be sexually misconstrued  or is just that the way my mind works :farmer:


I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thought that LOL  :-J  - could also indicate a mouth ulcer though? stress caused by DEFRA-paperwork induced mouth ulcer....
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: doganjo on May 31, 2012, 10:06:15 am
Dan the emotion that you put on could be sexually misconstrued  or is just that the way my mind works :farmer:
You are both VERY naughty! :eyelashes:  But I like you!  ;)   I thought it just looked like a gumboil ::)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Possum on May 31, 2012, 11:09:30 am
Oh Dan. What a task it is, running a website. You try to respond to people's requests and just end up with lots of cross comments! ::)


I think, if several people have asked for this feature, then it was good of you to install it.  :thumbsup: .

I personally don't think I will need to use it as I have never been offended by any of the posts. I know some of the discussions get a bit heated at times, but that does reflect the real community feel that TAS has. Something that I value. Perhaps the answer is to trial the feature for a while and see how it works out?




Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: colliewoman on May 31, 2012, 11:25:53 am
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
I think oysters are all forgettable ;D  with or without grit  ;)

A honeymoon couple ordered a platter of a dozen oysters on their wedding night.  The following morning, the concierge asked, with a knowing grin, how they had enjoyed their oysters.  "Well," said the bride, "they were alright, but only 9 of them worked."

Sall-eee  :D :D :D


How about Nanny Ogg's famous 'carrot and oyster pie'??
Carrots so's you can see in the dark, and oysters so's you got summat to look at!  :D :D


Buy Nanny Ogg's cook book. It's hilarious :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Simple Simon on May 31, 2012, 12:20:46 pm
This is a somewhat blunt instrument but has some use.


Some people shoot from the hip and offend through thoughtlessness.  Being thick-skinned they tend to post a lot.


Others think very carefully about what they say and how they say it: they offend only by design.  So I find myself muttering under my breath at calumnies rather than pouring on the petrol.  I would expect to send such people to the naughty corner for a couple of weeks so I can forget them. 


I was an FSA regulated person for a couple of decades.  Knowing your emails are being kept as evidence against you makes you careful.  Being a witness in a fraud trial (case dismissed and costs awarded) makes you thoughtful.  The internet does have a very long memory and the arm of the law is getting longer and stronger as the chaps at News International and half the Cabinet seem to be finding.  It must be most disconcerting to find a Tweet that took seconds to send (and was instantly forgotten) as a front page headline. 








Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 31, 2012, 01:02:08 pm
Sally I love your quote, I am going to pinch it, (hope you do`nt mind)
Pinch away  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Padge on May 31, 2012, 06:18:03 pm
Dan the emotion that you put on could be sexually misconstrued  or is just that the way my mind works :farmer:


I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thought that LOL  :-J  - could also indicate a mouth ulcer though? stress caused by DEFRA-paperwork induced mouth ulcer....

 
 
 
I'm really pleased to find there were more than me    and suitably embarrassed to admit me too!!
 
aaaand i had to nick the oyster joke   rofl
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Small Farmer on May 31, 2012, 07:33:02 pm
It's actually quite entertaining to use the Ignore setting and then try to work out what was said from the before and after posts.  You do need to know the style of the ignored person though.


Personally I loathe the emotiwotsits which mostly just add noise.  But they are very popular.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: jaykay on May 31, 2012, 09:09:25 pm
Ah, now for me emotiwhatsits convey at least as much meaning as the actual words  :D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 31, 2012, 09:33:40 pm
A honeymoon couple ordered a platter of a dozen oysters on their wedding night.  The following morning, the concierge asked, with a knowing grin, how they had enjoyed their oysters.  "Well," said the bride, "they were alright, but only 9 of them worked."

Sall-eee  :D :D :D

Dan, I love the new emotiwotsits - pleeeeaaaasssee can I have a couple more?  :eyelashes:  Being :fingers crossed: and (needed above!) :moi???  innocence personified:   ;)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Bangbang on May 31, 2012, 10:26:10 pm
If the forum is treated like a library, with its many Topics subjects and authors, then surely when we browse through it we should select the things that suit our preferences and needs.
So there should be no concerns about ignoring a postie. If you were in a library and didn't like a topic or a particular author then you wouldn't pick it up.
On the flip side if you delete all the posties you dont think you like then who are you going to have a moan about in your head ?
 
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on June 01, 2012, 07:30:21 am
Dan, I love the new emotiwotsits - pleeeeaaaasssee can I have a couple more?  :eyelashes:  Being :fingers crossed: and (needed above!) :moi???  innocence personified:   ;)

 :innocent: :fc: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on June 01, 2012, 07:32:11 am
If the forum is treated like a library, with its many Topics subjects and authors, then surely when we browse through it we should select the things that suit our preferences and needs.
So there should be no concerns about ignoring a postie. If you were in a library and didn't like a topic or a particular author then you wouldn't pick it up.

This is good! I like to think of it a a party, where when you circulate you may acknowledge the presence of particular guests, but certainly wouldn't want to stick around to hear what they have to say. :)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: doganjo on June 01, 2012, 08:59:30 am
If the forum is treated like a library, with its many Topics subjects and authors, then surely when we browse through it we should select the things that suit our preferences and needs.
So there should be no concerns about ignoring a postie. If you were in a library and didn't like a topic or a particular author then you wouldn't pick it up.

This is good! I like to think of it a a party, where when you circulate you may acknowledge the presence of particular guests, but certainly wouldn't want to stick around to hear what they have to say. :)
Exactly my thoughts, but sometimes you just catch a few words and your blood boils at their sheer stupidity and are so tempted to respond to put them right, so I am coming round to your ignoring them idea as it will assist my self control. *cheeks sucked in and eyebrows raised*
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 01, 2012, 09:16:51 am
Dan, I love the new emotiwotsits - pleeeeaaaasssee can I have a couple more?  :eyelashes:  Being :fingers crossed: and (needed above!) :moi???  innocence personified:   ;)

 :innocent: :fc: :thumbsup:

 :thumbsup:  Thank you Dan!  :-*   Love them!   ;D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: suziequeue on June 01, 2012, 10:34:50 am
Dan
 
How do you do them? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: gardenjeannie on January 08, 2013, 03:20:02 am
I'd actually be fascinated to know who blocks who - but I don't want to know, if you know what I mean! 

Personally, I think a bit of friction is the grit in the oyster that makes the pearl.  Otherwise it's just something that slides down smoothly but is ultimately forgettable.  ;)
I think oysters are all forgettable ;D  with or without grit  ;)

A honeymoon couple ordered a platter of a dozen oysters on their wedding night.  The following morning, the concierge asked, with a knowing grin, how they had enjoyed their oysters.  "Well," said the bride, "they were alright, but only 9 of them worked."

Sall-eee  :D :D :D


How about Nanny Ogg's famous 'carrot and oyster pie'??
Carrots so's you can see in the dark, and oysters so's you got summat to look at!  :D :D


Buy Nanny Ogg's cook book. It's hilarious :thumbsup:






Wish I had been on when this conversation still going!  Nanny Ogg's the best!  And her recipes are usable.  Mrs Beeton will never look the same again! :roflanim:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Mel Rice on January 08, 2013, 06:54:57 am
Not everyone gets with everyone else and if it was a room full of people all chatting there would be some who would choose to not engage with a particular person...as long as its not obvious then I see no problem. The written word is so much more permenant than the spoken (unless thats all recorded too ) I think it is a good idea this blocking thing I mean....Hope I wont use it either though!
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 29, 2014, 12:29:16 am
Okay, maybe I am just becoming a bit grumpy old woman... Waddya mean, Sal, 'becoming'?! haha very funny...

I see we no longer haven an ignore user function, and I would like to use it. 

I'm not so bothered about hiding the text of a person's posts; what I want is for their postings to not affect my 'new' settings - so if the only update on a thread is from the ignored person, then that thread will not appear on my 'New Replies' and 'Unread' lists.

Several times recently I have just walked away from TAS because someone has splattered all the threads with utter tosh and nonsense (IMO), and I really can't be bothered to open every single thread to see if there is any update worth reading besides what this numpty has written.


There, that's better.  Thank you.

All I have to do is give it 12 hours or so, and the threads with any genuine conversation happening will get updated again. 

Rant over.   :sunshine:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Cluckinggoodpoultry on May 29, 2014, 06:27:15 am
There is always another way of doing it rather than ignoring the post, on some sites there is a kudos button, could you not do this as a like and dislike at the bottom of the post, thumbs up thumbs down? Similar to what AndynJ has just suggested.


 I'm sure if people started getting dislikes they maybe realise that they need to step back and think about what they are writing.


I was looking for the like button as Sally int North has put up some really cracking comments.


I too saw the tongue in cheek emoticon as something entirely different, and at this time on a morning my mind really needs to behave  :innocent:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 29, 2014, 06:58:36 am
Ooooh, sorry, I've unwittingly started the whole 'like/dislike/karma' debate again... can't think what emoticon to use for "Oh no not again" - perhaps we need a bowl of petunias...

However, since it's done... it maybe is worth discussing again...

Because I do worry sometimes that not all new members, who've joined to ask for help with something, will be able to distinguish the useful from the misleading.  And because we are a polite forum, whose members do not jump in and say, "That's rubbish, Sal!", or, "Yes, but yours always die, don't they?!", there may not be many or any clues to the uninitiated...
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: bloomer on May 29, 2014, 07:14:05 am
the ignore list function is still there it is in your profile at the bottom there is a tab called buddies/ignore list you have to manually enter the name of the person you want to ignore.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 29, 2014, 07:28:56 am
Ah!  :idea:   Thanks for that, David.

However, my request for
what I want is for their postings to not affect my 'new' settings - so if the only update on a thread is from the ignored person, then that thread will not appear on my 'New Replies' and 'Unread' lists.

stands!
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: bloomer on May 29, 2014, 07:30:04 am
ok that's dan's department :-D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Lesley Silvester on May 31, 2014, 09:32:23 pm
I had forgotten about this feature so thanks, SITN for resurrecting it.  :D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: benandjerry on June 04, 2014, 10:01:21 am
From a wannabeeeee  small holder point of view, who prior to joining knew not a lot.  I pick and choose the topics that take my fancy.  Although I don't post hughly in the livestock section I read them and I find the debate between the members who have livestock fascinating and through that have learnt a lot, rightly or wrongly.  This will enable me to help with my decision to move forward with a potential small holding or not.  Also things like paperwork, grants... for example I didn't know you got council farms!

So I guess what I am saying is I pick and choose and ignore nobody. :)  But......... sometimes my reading / posting is time based.  I may only have a few minutes to have a quick look through or I may have ages (that's normally when I should be doing something else and can't be bothered :-J )

I would also feel very comfortable at asking a question to do with small holding and know that I would (Hopefully, if I wasn't been ignored  :roflanim: ) get lots of different answers that would them help me formulate my own way forward.

I think the website is brilliant and I am glad I found it  :)

And I love the emoticons things (I always call them smileys).   :) :bouquet: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2014, 11:55:57 am
However, my request for
what I want is for their postings to not affect my 'new' settings - so if the only update on a thread is from the ignored person, then that thread will not appear on my 'New Replies' and 'Unread' lists.

stands!

Sorry Sally, that's not going to be possible. We're constrained by the core forum software and data structures in areas like this.

In this case it would require some overly greedy (in server resource terms) queries to identify for just you all of the posts that are unread and by users who aren't on your ignore list, only where the only unread posts are by such folk, and in addition to the standard permissions checks such queries need to make. Multiply it by the number of users on here and the server would grind to a halt.

What we might be able to do is add a little indicator in the 'Last post' column to show if the last post was by someone you have ignored, but the danger there is that there were posts before the last post by members you aren't ignoring.

Sorry!  :(
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Lesley Silvester on June 04, 2014, 02:47:53 pm
Can someone clarify for me. I blocked two people but posts from them are still coming up. Does it only block if they comment on my posts?
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: AndynJ on June 04, 2014, 03:22:48 pm
I would post something but am too scared of someone blocking me  :roflanim:

Better be safe than sorry  :relief:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 04, 2014, 08:19:41 pm
I'm pretty sure that it should be anything that they post - you should just have a line saying something like ""*£&$^$% has posted a comment" - (cant' remember exactly what it said as have stopped 'ignoring' the person I used to)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 04, 2014, 10:25:29 pm
You will see that the person has posted, but the text of their post is replaced with, "You are ignoring this user."  You can click on that sentence to see the text of their post.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 04, 2014, 10:26:13 pm
Thanks for the explanation, Dan - I knew that really, I was just having a Grrrr day and needed to get it off my chest! 
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: devonlad on June 05, 2014, 06:54:42 pm


Because I do worry sometimes that not all new members, who've joined to ask for help with something, will be able to distinguish the useful from the misleading.  And because we are a polite forum, whose members do not jump in and say, "That's rubbish, Sal!", or, "Yes, but yours always die, don't they?!", there may not be many or any clues to the uninitiated...

As someone who joined here about 18 months ago, and as a relative novice to livestock keeping I actually found the variety of advice quite reassuring and more reflective of the fact that in many cases there is no one simple answer. luckily, although fairly wet behind the ears when it came to sheep (slightly less wet now I hope) I still had the wit to disseminate various views and come to a conclusion. if I only needed one definitive answer I could rely on one text book. TAS is like a whole load of text books. and over time you do get to feel like you know how different people respond. S INT N always looks to avoid unnecessary medication which I love, Rosemary is just Rosemary  :bouquet: and Tim W "CULL"  :roflanim: and loads of other useful and almost always thoughtful advice that helps me more than any other resource I have. As forums go this is certainly the most respectful  and as long as I stay out of posts re Scottish independence and micro pigs its terribly civilised. not felt the need to ignore anyone (well not to press the button anyway) but nice to know its there just in case
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: benandjerry on June 05, 2014, 10:10:56 pm
Well said devon lad.... That's what I was trying to say but you said it better  :)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 06, 2014, 07:27:47 am
I have no problem with reading comments from people with differing views...I see the forum as an extension of daily 'real' life where you meet people with opposing ideas and you either keep your lips shut and say nothing or you can enter into a debate (friendly debate usually!) about where you differ. However, the ignore function is fantastic for when you find yourself up against an abusive person who chooses to insult your way of life and is nasty with it (for not being a 'real farmer', "always talking rubbish" etc)
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: JulieWall on June 06, 2014, 11:51:14 am
It's a pity, but some people feel able to say things on a forum that they would phrase more politely when face to face with a person. I think the post blocking thing is a good idea so that people can simply not read the posts of offensive members, but it's a shame that you needed to have it in the first place. I've seen too many first class contributors leave other forums - professional people with skills to share - because they felt unprotected from venomous remarks by other more self-important members. I've seen too much free speech destroy more than one perfectly good forum once the helpful contributors give up trying to join in.
All forum members have a responsibility to keep discussions tolerant and courteous if they value their online community.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: AndynJ on June 06, 2014, 01:06:37 pm
juliewall,
Good point, I share my professional knowledge and my experience on here I also ask a lot of questions, I therefore find it a super place to learn & share, when I have my ex professional head on sometimes my frustration can come out in a post, I do not believe I've ever been rude though I have directly asked abrupt questions in order to be thought provoking for not only the postee but also other members, once I got a rant on about someone that I felt was bragging about their benefits.

Recently I have had posts removed had indirect warnings from a moderator to the point that now I avoid quite a lot of threads, I post 10% of what I used too, and feel that I can no longer be myself on this forum so will probably just slip away slowly. I know of 4 others that feel similar to myself, such a shame.
So yep forum members  :thumbsup: Forum administrators  :thumbsup: 1 moderator :rant:

I wonder how long this post will stay up  :thinking:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2014, 03:19:11 pm
Recently I have had posts removed had indirect warnings from a moderator to the point that now I avoid quite a lot of threads, I post 10% of what I used too, and feel that I can no longer be myself on this forum so will probably just slip away slowly. I know of 4 others that feel similar to myself, such a shame.
So yep forum members  :thumbsup: Forum administrators  :thumbsup: 1 moderator :rant:

I wonder how long this post will stay up  :thinking:

It'll stay up as long as the forum exists, why wouldn't it?

Please report any activity that causes you concern, no matter the source, and we'll look into it. I personally haven't seen any reports from you about moderation, so it's a pity you're reducing your activity without us having an opportunity to do anything about it.  :-\

If you or anyone else would prefer to email us directly you always can - dan@tas.re or rosemary@tas.re.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: john and helen on June 09, 2014, 11:56:06 am
i never find anything people say offensive, i may not agree, but i would like to think i could except others think differently,
i would never block anyone…. to me, and its just my view, i find the blocking thing a bit childish, i would rather ignore
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: ZaktheLad on June 09, 2014, 12:03:56 pm
i never find anything people say offensive, i may not agree, but i would like to think i could except others think differently,
i would never block anyone…. to me, and its just my view, i find the blocking thing a bit childish, i would rather ignore

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 09, 2014, 12:48:25 pm
Sometimes there's just someone who winds us up the wrong way, and it's helpful to have that little pause-and-breathe moment before looking at what they've written ;)

If you don't ever need to do that, I am very happy for you!   :sunshine:

I don't use it often at all, but just every now and then, maybe when I am not at my sunniest  :tired:, and someone's on a bit of a mission... ;)

And other times, there's just someone who writes something on every single thread and never has anything helpful, interesting - or even to the point or correct! - to say, (in my view), and I find it better for me and my blood pressure to just ignore everything they write. 

Again, I am happy for everyone who never finds it useful to ignore any user  :sunshine:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: john and helen on June 09, 2014, 01:40:54 pm
i just think you are all lovely..even when you are wrong  ;D ;D ;D joking  ;D
i must admit to being a little wind up merchant sometimes  :eyelashes: :eyelashes: ;D ;D but i try not to offend

i know when i have reached my limit..my helen gives me the look…that look that only woman can do  :innocent: ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: ZaktheLad on June 09, 2014, 02:42:08 pm
Hmmm,my husband often refers to "my look" - I have no idea what he is talking about  :innocent:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: john and helen on June 09, 2014, 07:55:20 pm
Hmmm,my husband often refers to "my look" - I have no idea what he is talking about  :innocent:


 ;D ;D ;D me thinks you know all to well  ;D

that look you girls have mastered, …gawd its scary….
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: Womble on June 09, 2014, 08:06:49 pm
Who said that???   :innocent:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: john and helen on June 09, 2014, 10:41:36 pm
 :roflanim:
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: JulieWall on June 10, 2014, 10:54:59 am
I'm assuming nobody can tell if another member is blocking out viewing their posts? If the fact that they have posted is still apparent then what's the point of blocking it? If you have the self discipline not to go and look at something even though you know it might bug you, then surely you would have the self discipleine to skip past their post anyway?
I'm tying my brain in knots here  :roflanim: I don't know what I think about this any more  :roflanim: We've had this function on our forum since the outset, I don't even know if it can be disabled in the ACP, but I always thought it was a bit pointless as we've never had any hassle. I have a line in the rules section which reads;
Before posting please note the following;
1/ As a rule of thumb, think of this site as visiting the home of friends. If you wouldn't say it in front of their kids or granny, re-phrase it.

It seems to be working so far, 4 years in and everyone has respected it, I'm quite proud of that.
Title: Re: Ignoring other members
Post by: suziequeue on June 10, 2014, 11:06:32 am
Julie

I shouldn't worry yourself about it. For those of us who use the feature - it's useful. For those of us who don't - it's not as if the feature's presence impinges on one's personal forum experience.

I would just let sleeping dogs lie.

There's no point wasting mental energy trying to second guess how or why other people prefer to use the forum and it's features surely?