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Mad Goatwoman of Madeley

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
No pears
« on: June 15, 2012, 12:28:32 am »
 :'(   :'( :'(   My pear treee was covered in blossom early this year and I worried about the cold nights.  However, baby pears started to form - loads and loads of them.  Just checked it out and there are only two left.  I'm assuming this is due to frost damage when the blossom was out.  Anyone know for certain?

Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: No pears
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 10:48:47 am »
I believe its called 'June Drop' when tree drops all the fruit it can't feed, if your weather has been like ours cold, wet & very windy then theres your answer. We are the same looks like no apples, plums or pears this year, piggies will be upset!
mandy  :pig:

peartreewoodlandsmallholding

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • staffordshire
Re: No pears
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 02:21:10 pm »
My pear trees went the same, had hundreds of baby pairs growing nicely, had the cold weather, They all started turning pale green and all started falling off in there dozens only had to knock a branch and off they fell, think im left with about 9 pears off 3 trees!!! All my apples and cherries are fine though. :fc:

Bramblecot

  • Joined Jul 2008
Re: No pears
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 10:46:54 pm »
Working at a local manor house today I checked the two huge ancient espalier pear trees that grow on the stable walls.  Usually they have a fantastic crop of desert pears in Oct - this year, 1 tiny pear between them!
And none on my little pear trees  :(

Mel

  • Guest
Re: No pears
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 02:10:24 pm »
Mine all fell off too,the apples,damsons,greengage and plums are fine,strange that!

Simon O

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Bonkle
Re: No pears
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 08:54:45 am »
this is so sad, same with us pears and apples both suffered from hard late frost after loads of beautiful blossom. Oh well there is always next year!
 

MAK

  • Joined Nov 2011
  • Middle ish of France
    • Cadeaux de La forge
Re: No pears
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 08:56:29 pm »
We have no frut or walnuts due to a very late frost. Pigs will be on missing out but the upside is that we won;t be spending late nights making jams, chutneys or cider. We can have a use up year I guess as we have racks of jam from last year and a few litres of cider left.
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Mad Goatwoman of Madeley

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: No pears
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 11:20:23 pm »
My apples and plums are doing well.  Not sure about the cherries though.  I can't see anything where the blossom was.  Ah well, I suppose it's part of growing fruit.  As least I only wanted it for us not for an income.

fairhaven

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Norfolk
    • The Hazy Rainbow
Re: No pears
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2012, 09:33:11 pm »
No pears at all for us here in Norfolk either... Our apples are like tiny mini golf balls that are dropping like flies, Must admit I haven't checked the plums & cherries, Will do that in the morning.   :fc:
Sheep: North Ronaldsay & 4 Horned Hebridean - We also breed & exhibit 3 breeds of rabbit - Chinchilla, Deilenaar (rare breed) & Colour Pointed English Angora.

Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Durham
Re: No pears
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2012, 09:40:32 pm »
Our young potted pear tree blossomed like mad this year before being battered by the weather, no fruits  :'(
No blossom on the cherry, the greengages blossomed less than usual but no fruit  :'(
The brambly apple is dropping it's walnut sized babies now too ( just hope a few stay on for autumn ).

Looks like our fruit this year is limited to strawberries and raspberries, oh well   :fc: we can still hope to go blackberry picking

Mad Goatwoman of Madeley

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: No pears
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012, 10:14:31 pm »
So far my apples and plums are doing well.  Definitely no cherries though on my tiny cherry tree.  I only had one last year (mainly due to the goats keep getting at the tree) and I had hopes of maybe half a dozen this year.

plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Worcestershire
    • Its Baaath Time
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Re: No pears
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2012, 09:07:23 pm »
We've no pears this year either for the first time in the 3 years we've lived at this place  :(


Started plum harvest a few days ago - the cherry and heron plums are ready. So far the egg and vic's look like they will be OK (but probably not anything like last year due to that frost we had)


 :fc: 
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

northfifeduckling

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • Fife
    • North Fife Blog
Re: No pears
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 01:59:48 pm »
I'm quite upset - we are not going to have a single apple or pear, no plums - zilch although everything was blossoming brilliantly. I remember we had hail each day for a week or 2 then rain and cold. The 2 pears that took fell off. :'( . :&>

denmylne

  • Joined Aug 2012
Re: No pears
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2012, 12:48:24 pm »
Historically, Pears are divided into early and late (also by season, summer, winter etc)
they also blossom at different times, the period of growth most susepable to wind damage. The flowering and fertilisation of a flower is time limited, beyond which no fruit forms, or in some cases, forms and drops off or forms poor mishappen, split, etc. some self sterile pear trees perform better next to other types of pear trees.
The wind and the rain both seriously effect the ability for the insects to pollinate the blossom. This year was particularly bad.
The pear blossom was early in my orchard this year but,  even though it wasnt windy, it was very wet so very few insects were about, I  took a  duster and pollinated the blossom on one side of a pear tree by hand.Which caused  loads of fine fruit on that side  but none on the other side left to nature . I was unable to pollinate all of the pear trees at that time as not all of the blossom was fully open, some others have faired better than others

Viewing the orchards in monorgan and longforgan, carse of gowrie, it was clear to see that some of the huge pear trees (over 300 years old) were ladened with fruit where as others were completely bare of any fruit at all.
This was also the case in a more recently planted orchard of scottish heritage fruit

I suspect the reason why there are so few pears this year is due to limited pear types in peoples gardens, (B&Q, Aldis, Lidls and nurseries and commercial orchards across the UK and Europe eg confrence and concord.

One solution the people of Newburgh came up with was when any vastly big old pear tree was cut down, they grafted scion material around the edge of the stump, perhaps as many as 20. 4-5 would be allowed to reach full height . Due to pear trees propensity to twist, this gives them the appearance of palm trees but also gives the tree longevity. if one limb cankers, breaks or dies, it can be cut back to a stump and another new scion gafted onto the stump. the other 4 limbs will continue to bare fruit during this process

The types of pears on each  limb also vary, eg crawford, lindores,  bon creeton, and black auchan, the crawford was the earliest pear tree to fruit in scotland at the time (end of july beginning of august, the lindores the end of august. Bon Creeton, Sept-Octob The black auchan produces fruit up until the end of December.

This also has the knock on effect that the individual limbs will flower at different or overlapping times, increasing the probability that at least some of the blossom on some of the limbs will survive the pollination process and produce fruit on some of the limbs of the tree.

The crawford was popular in the south of england were it survived well on the brow of ridges and other exposed places which had micro climates more akin to scotland.
The black auchan, the main winter pear in scotland failed to produce good quality fruit down south, the warmer weather ripened the fruit too quickly and produced a pear of the second quality as such the south of england has winter pears of its own which are better suited to that climate than the black auchen. In exposed areas of scotland it may continue producing fruit until Jan. The black auchen has a thick and unbleamished waxy skin making it an excellent keeping pear for the winter

The citron de carmes, the pear of the carmalite nuns, also called the madelane as it was ready by the feast of St Magdalen  the 26th of July. In France. not Scotland. The fruit however, does not keep well on the tree and is liable to split. the longer ripening season in scotland is unfavourable for this variety, the fruit tends to split before it has ripened although it can be grown in the micro climate of scotland of a south facing wall to speed up the ripening process.

Many early french pears can and do survive in scotland but as autumn pears

denmylne

  • Joined Aug 2012
Re: No pears
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 06:03:15 pm »
For those interested in Heritage Pears

http://denmylne.wordpress.com/about/

 

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