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PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cow and sheep!
Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« on: August 01, 2022, 04:44:57 pm »
Had a spot check EA, all well except above.

Apparently the fuel tank needs taps/pipes in bund, were his words.

So ideas folks, how? He did say doesn't need to be fancy, just the pipe needs to be in "something" in case it leaked as does the tap and it's surround (apparently the dry bucket shoved in at an angle is no longer suitable!)

On the plus side, no clamp silage, no slurry pits, no mass poultry, being little, the visit was a flying one!
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

chrismahon

  • Joined Dec 2011
  • Gascony, France
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 05:55:45 pm »
Last place I worked had have a wall with a sand infill around the tank to contain leakage. A joke really as all it did was retain rainwater. I think they mean an absorbent wrap and we have used the stuff they sell for condensation window drip strip. So if it does catch a leak what do you do with it?

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 11:18:04 pm »
What did he mean by "tap"?  As in a valve for isolating the flow?
"All fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once." -Terry Pratchett

PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cow and sheep!
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2022, 06:12:21 am »
What did he mean by "tap"?  As in a valve for isolating the flow?

No, it's a verticle round tank with the lever on the bottom to open the tap, fuel goes through pipe to nozzle which I squeeze and shove in tractor.

He said that its "just in case there is a leak" so that the part of the tank at the bottom  where the lever is, should a leak happen, it's contained and doesn't go into the ground. Also that the pipe and nozzle needs to be in this same containment. Said that some use half IBC's to cover.

I get what has to be done it's just I can't quite figure out how to do it.
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 08:57:20 am »
Best practice is to not have a single point of failure (e.g. the tap), and to have something to catch leaks around the joints for instance.

If you can't put an end cap on the hose, how long is the hose itself?  Could you rig something up so that it's stored with the end above the oil level in the tank, because that would achieve the same thing.
"All fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once." -Terry Pratchett

PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cow and sheep!
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2022, 06:53:29 am »
Best practice is to not have a single point of failure (e.g. the tap), and to have something to catch leaks around the joints for instance.

If you can't put an end cap on the hose, how long is the hose itself?  Could you rig something up so that it's stored with the end above the oil level in the tank, because that would achieve the same thing.



I think that's why he said about half IBC to catch/cover. The tank sits on a solid stand and is high so fuel empties via gravity. I'm going to pick dad's brains, he's here today and he likes a challenge!

I have priced up a new tank, though now they are called "fuel stations", problem is 1300l is around 1400 + vat. For what we use, I can't justify it (if someone else pays, that's different, but my cash I have it planned for animals, vet fees, feeding, disasters etc) so a tank AND shifting ours, removing the fuel and putting it into new tank ..... Quite a bit more!

There's always something!

- We did get some 20l Jerry cans a few years ago and were nipping to the garage as and when but then it was where to store them and there is only one garage who sold red diesel by the pump, despite there being 4 in the area!
« Last Edit: August 03, 2022, 06:58:38 am by PipKelpy »
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2022, 08:48:36 am »
Good luck!  Post some photos if you like - I do this stuff for a living (well, usually a few thousand times bigger, but it's the same thing), and am happy to help if needby.
"All fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once." -Terry Pratchett

PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cow and sheep!
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2022, 11:31:54 am »
Good luck!  Post some photos if you like - I do this stuff for a living (well, usually a few thousand times bigger, but it's the same thing), and am happy to help if needby.

Well, dad's challenge went down flat! His suggestion, a 22.kg superlyx container and gaffer tape holding a plastic bag , no, he wasn't joking!

When I told him this was the Environment Agency, I got a blank look off him!

Even suggested moving our tank into the hay bay next to some hay.

I have found a plastic in metal tank which is cheaper than the plastic bunded  ones but it's got to be kept under cover. We do have somewhere, but it would take hard-core to level it out meaning it would be just as cheap to buy a fuel station!

Going to have to keep thinking......
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cow and sheep!
Re: Tap/pipe covers bunded tank
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2022, 04:20:56 pm »
So far am thinking wheelie bin, ratchet straps, bungee cords, wooden frame, padlock!
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

 

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