Author Topic: Farmers renting land (Read 3195 times)

Welshlad · « **on:** September 21, 2016, 07:29:22 pm »

How can sheep farmers pay up to £100/ acre for rented land and still make a profit?

juliem · « **Reply #1 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:11:16 pm »

Perhaps they are claiming the countryside stewardship payments instead of the landowner

Backinwellies · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2016, 08:04:31 am »

I doubt farmers pay anything like that ...... it's us smallholders that bump up prices!

SallyintNorth · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2016, 09:01:35 am »

Farmers around here pay that - for severely disadvantaged hill land, and sometimes with grazing density limits, too. But yes, the farmer would claim the basic payment.

How would a landowner make any money if rentals were lower?

SallyintNorth · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2016, 09:02:17 am »

As to profit... Sheep don't make a profit, they are a necessary cost to farming subsidies off farm land.

juliem · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2016, 02:19:34 pm »

The basic payment is probably about £80 per acre....if the government in 2020 commit themselves to maintain it....very likely to up the acreage limit from 5 hectares.Even the Archers this lunchtime mentioned the farmers v NHS debate.....

juliem · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2016, 06:37:33 pm »

I charge £60 per acre and get the single farm payment of £80 per acre from Defra....for this the stock owner gets 12 acres well fenced land with auto water in 4 fields. I have to pay for the hedges to be cut/ditches to be cleared/moles to be caught/any trees that need to be cut/and weedkilling to be done and farm buildings that need to be maintained. Given the initial cost of the fencing (thousands) I will never make any money...just buy a few years of peace and quiet from the neighbours ..and the confidence to go away for a weekend and livestock won't get out.(or drop dead...but that happened this morning...lamb with flystrike. Oh and last night I was picking the maggots out of it.....and it still died!)