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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2016, 06:38:34 pm »
I have Indian game eggs due to hatch this week which I'm looking forward to so fingers crossed  :fc:

I'm also getting 20 Sasso Farm Ranger meat birds delivered next Saturday along with 20 Guinea Fowl so will hopefully rearing them all together.

So expect to see loads of pics soon  :excited:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2016, 10:30:22 pm »
I have created a spreadsheet that colour codes highest and lowest weights and that calculates the average weights etc.

I have weighed the birds at 6 weeks 3 days

My light sussexs have the better weight averages so far

What weights should the birds be looking at that age I have couple of birds already weighing 0.9kg and 0.8kg but the rest at around 0.65-0.75kg

Thoughts
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2016, 06:01:32 am »
Few pics
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2016, 06:04:40 am »
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2016, 06:05:40 am »
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Dave C

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  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2016, 01:55:11 pm »
I have created a spreadsheet that colour codes highest and lowest weights and that calculates the average weights etc.

I have weighed the birds at 6 weeks 3 days

My light sussexs have the better weight averages so far

What weights should the birds be looking at that age I have couple of birds already weighing 0.9kg and 0.8kg but the rest at around 0.65-0.75kg

Thoughts

I've had both breeds but never weighed them at that age, I would say though that the .9 & .8kg birds seem a good weight for traditional breeds of that age it would be worth keeping an eye on them two for future breeding.
My hybrids were a bit heavier but hybrids are going to be but it will be interesting what my Buff Rocks weigh in at next week when there 6 weeks, don't think they will be as heavy as yours but will be good to compare.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2016, 01:56:08 pm »
BELOW IS THE SPREADSHEET I CREATED TO MONITOR MY MEAT BIRDS
THESE BIRDS WHERE HATCHED ON SAME DAY, AND BEEN FED THE SAME FEED SINCE DAY THEY WHERE BORN
I WILL WEIGH AGAIN ON WEEK 13 AND THEN ADD SEX TO THE SPREAD SHEET I HAVE ID ALL THE BIRDS SO TO HAVE A TRUE RECORD

I HAVE FOUND THAT THE LIGHT SUSSEX ARE GROWNING FASTER AT PRESENT
I MAY SEPERATE THE LESS HEAVY BIRDS TO SEE IF THEY THEN EAT MORE
BUT THE WEIGHTS DONT LOOK TOO BAD AT THE MINUTE


   BATCH 1 6 WEEK 3 DAY WEIGH IN (KG)      
ID   LIGHT SUSSEX   IG X LS    ID

1100   0.725                    0.725     1106
1101   0.765                    0.631     1107
1102   0.800                    0.720     1108
1103   0.686                    0.673     1109
1104   0.714                    0.675     1110
1105   0.930       
         
      LS   IGXLS
LOWEST WEIGHT    0.686    0.631    
TOP WEIGHT    0.930    0.725    
AVERAGE WEIGHT   0.770    0.685    
         
         

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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2016, 01:57:41 pm »
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Nice looking birds as well  :thumbsup:
Are the IG X LS sex linked do you know, i.e. Hens brown, cocks white ?

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2016, 02:18:51 pm »
yes you can sex link, the males are like a light buff colour not white more like an orpington colour and the females are a darker brown

could yoou view the data from the spreadsheet

wasnt use it uploaded properly

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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2016, 06:30:53 pm »
It looks good data  :thumbsup:

I'm no expert at plotting growth comparison charts and some on here may give better information as this is the first year I've tracked the weights of my birds so closely, but I'm weighing more often to try to spot optimin growth spells at certain ages if you know what I mean, to try to give me the best time to cull, as after that your feeding for not much weight gain.

This chart explains it s bit better

 

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2016, 08:25:25 pm »
Thanks Dave

I will have a look
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2016, 08:36:53 pm »
I might sound daft but what does culminative mean

And would you plot each individual bird
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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2016, 10:28:16 pm »
I might sound daft but what does culminative mean

And would you plot each individual bird

My take on it is - Cumulative consumption is the Total kg of feed consumed by a batch = FCR feed conversation ratio.

This Tells you the efficiency of the bird to convert feed into weight.

If that makes sense  :relief:

Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2016, 10:30:02 pm »
My Indian Game eggs are on lock down now  :fc:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2016, 11:09:04 pm »
Hi Dave
I started another chart for each bird weighing each week
But I was thinking culminative was the average weight of all the birds so have plotted a chart to see where each bird lies with the average
I guess I was wrong ha
But it still works and data is useful

I have been monitoring how much feed I have been giving them but might be best to wait until later down the line as I have just been monitoring the cost per bird to finish
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