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Author Topic: What is a mule?  (Read 20118 times)

snowyriver

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Montgomeryshire
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2015, 03:24:36 pm »
Hi, I hope this helps.

Welsh Mules are always sired by a Bluefaced Leicester ram, be it the traditional type or the crossing type.

To be eligible for sale in one of the Welsh Mule Society Sales, it has to be a registered Blueface Leicester ram crossed with hill ewes of the Welsh Mountain, Beulah or Welsh Hill Speckledface breeds.

Any other cross is not a recognised Welsh Mule!

However many sheep breeders in Wales cross the Bluefaced Leicester rams onto flocks of unknown breeding and still refer to them as 'Mule'.

Coximus

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2015, 08:31:12 pm »
mules will always have a place on some farms, their a plenty of mixed farms (IE 3-400 acres, arable but with grass in the rotation to build soil / control weeds etc) who may have a flock that some years needs to be 50-ewes others grows to 250 then down again, and the mule fits the bill for this perfectly -  easy to buy, easy to sell, on the whole most people understand it, and they tend to be pretty flexible on feed - so do well on grass, turnips, grains, anything you have, whereas some breeds that are great for grass only, just run to fat on mixed feeding - thats my expereince of Lleyn and their crosses anyway.

Kimbo

  • Joined Feb 2015
  • Anglezarke, Lancashire
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2015, 08:38:37 pm »
The only mules I know are the progeny of a mare mated with a  male donkey  ;D



( not true actually, as Ive recently read a book that explained all about ovine mules and their regional variations)
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mojocafa

  • Joined Sep 2012
  • Angus
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2015, 09:16:20 pm »
Kimbo...  :relief:

Am so glad you said the above , I always thought a mule was a horsy animal
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Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2015, 11:00:24 pm »
Don't feel bad, I thought Kimbo was a 20st American bare knuckle boxer.

Buttermilk

  • Joined Jul 2014
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2015, 06:43:35 am »
Don't feel bad, I thought Kimbo was a 20st American bare knuckle boxer.
You mean she isn't?

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2015, 08:52:43 am »
No, too many good meals, 21st now  ;)

Kimbo

  • Joined Feb 2015
  • Anglezarke, Lancashire
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2015, 10:30:24 am »
You don't know how close to the truth you are  ;)


( sorry, have to go and chalk up my knuckles now)
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Marches Farmer

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Herefordshire
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2015, 11:27:30 am »
The only mules I know are the progeny of a mare mated with a  male donkey  ;D

I think the point is that you don't breed an equine mule with an equine mule.  Equally you don't breed an ovine mule with an ovine mule.  The mule is hardy, easy lambing, an excellent mother and if you ever do have to interfere at lambing time it's because she's got a serious problem.

Llandovery Lass

  • Joined Mar 2011
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2015, 06:15:36 pm »
We borrowed a BFL 2 years ago and put him to our speckleds, we kept the nicest 6 ewe lambs. Not one has had footrot, we often see them 'biting' their nails and generally giving themselves a pedicure. We had one of the boys for the freezer as they don't make very commercial lambs for market, he tasted good but could see what my butcher meant as the joints are large and the bones are too. Not really a supermarket lamb.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: What is a mule?
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2015, 01:29:45 pm »
Just to update this interesting thread with things I've learned and found since.

In Scotland, especially the Borders, the Border Leicester is known as a 'Bred'.  He's used on the prevalent hill ewe, which is the Cheviot, so the offspring is 'Half-bred'.   :idea:

Officially the offspring of a Bred to a Blackie should be called a Greyface - thus far we haven't identified anyone doing this on purpose and don't know what they call the result.  But Longtown Mart categorise a lot of the sheep sold there as Greyface...  :thinking:

And I found this description on the Welsh Halfbred Sheep Assoc website.
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