Agri Vehicles Insurance from Greenlands

Author Topic: Growing carrots in same place  (Read 8111 times)

suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Growing carrots in same place
« on: July 24, 2015, 09:43:53 pm »
We've had a great year for carrots this year.


I planted them in a trough about two feet above the ground and none of them have been touched by carrot fly or anything.


I would like to use the same trough next year but I am mindful that it's not good to plant the same things in the same place each year.


I've only got one trough though……..


Anybody got any thoughts or experience about whether it's do-able to grow the carrots in the trough again next year?
We do the best we can with the information we have

When we know better we do better

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2015, 11:17:59 pm »
If you take out the compost/earth and put it where you're going to grow peas/beans and fill your trough with fresh compost/earth then no problem. If you can't do that then I would think you would still be ok :fc:

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2015, 11:49:54 pm »
As you've had no evidence of carrot root fly at all, then you should be fine to grow them in the same soil again from that point of view.

However, by growing a crop in the same place in successive years, you use up the nutrients that particular plant needs.  Add some well rotted compost, but not manure (fresh manure and carrots leads to forking - I'm sure you know this) to make up any depletion of soil nutrition.
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

cloddopper

  • Joined Jun 2013
  • South Wales .Carmarthenshire. SA18
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2015, 12:41:16 am »
Don't believe the old wives tale about carrot flies not flying up to high raised beds.
 All my veg beds are brick built  3 x 3 feet square , 900 mm /36 inches up from the concrete paths , we live at 117 mtrs above sea level .

The carrot fly have devastated most of the carrots that I have not treated with a pesticide , this also included the supposedly resistant " Flyaway " carrots .

 Humidity and temperature seem to have a major effect in the  strength of the attacks .
 Disturbed carrot foliage scents definitely attract them , I placed one of the yellow sticky cards two feet up above the top of the raised carrot bed bed one year . Then I bruised a few leaves and got loads of the little sods stuck to the card over the next two hours .
 There were not as many on a fresh card that was used in the same manner one windy warm day .
« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 11:56:54 pm by cloddopper »
Strong belief , triggers the mind to find the way ... Dyslexia just makes it that bit more amusing & interesting

suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2015, 02:06:39 am »
Thanks for all your responses. I will work the wisdom into my planning.


I think I will change the compost and be more wary of carrot root fly in future.
We do the best we can with the information we have

When we know better we do better

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 11:02:21 am »
<<The carrot fly have devastated most of the carrots that I have not treated with a pesticide , this also included the supposedly resistant " Flyaway " carrots>> .

Cloddopper - there's no need to pollute your carrots with pesticides - enviromesh insect mesh works extremely well if you keep it on from sowing to harvest, well pinned down at the edges. It's re-useable for many years.

I agree about the little varmints being able to fly higher than 2'  :rant:
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

cloddopper

  • Joined Jun 2013
  • South Wales .Carmarthenshire. SA18
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2015, 01:11:19 am »
I tried the mesh idea & had a few issues with it as most of my 36 inch high raised veg beds are 9 or 12 square feet each in area though they are all linked in sets of 4's ,7's or 8's.

 Each bed is divided into a grid of single square feet the carrots and many other crops are station sown on each grid square foot through clear perspex masks in various patterns that run from 1,2,3,4,5,6, 8,9 ,12 & 16 stations per sq foot .

 Most of these beds have two or more crops in the squares , some such as onions suffer under the mesh , any that have single greens ie over wintering cauli & cabbage in an adjacent  square foot seem to still suffer from sodding butterfly attacks .

No matter even if I've covered the whole bed and used bricks to weigh the mesh down .. the cabbage white butterflies can often lay eggs through the fine 0.75 mm square grid mesh woven nylon sheeting  , you don't find out till one day you lift the mesh to find that there are some tiny caterpillars chomping away at the greens .

Strong belief , triggers the mind to find the way ... Dyslexia just makes it that bit more amusing & interesting

devonlady

  • Joined Aug 2014
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2015, 07:30:01 am »
I grow my carrots in raised beds and only have the odd one affected by carrot fly.

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Growing carrots in same place
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2015, 10:27:41 pm »
I'm growing mine in troughs on stands as well - not to reduce the risk of carrot fly but because of shortage of growing space. So far I haven't noticed any carrot fly damage. I wonder if the basil and coriander growing nearby is putting them off.

 

Forum sponsors

FibreHut Energy Helpline Thomson & Morgan Time for Paws Scottish Smallholder & Grower Festival Ark Farm Livestock Movement Service

© The Accidental Smallholder Ltd 2003-2024. All rights reserved.

Design by Furness Internet

Site developed by Champion IS