[mojocafa]

I have mistakenly left a gate open.....

Resulting in my billie having unlimited access to 10 female pygmy goats for the day.

If any of the girls have been serviced  , I would ideally like to know who.

Can anyone recommend someone that can scan in the angus area.

And at what point would I scan?

And as my hubby has pointed out , it was a good job it was me that left the gate open as if it was anyone else  I would have been

[Steph Hen]

10 females! That's a lot of potential kids!!!
Sorry, I don't know anything about scanning, etc, sorry.  x

[waterbuffalofarmer]

With a buffalo you can scan at 4 weeks, but it only becomes easy to see at 6 weeks. I would say about 4 weeks minimum. Hope this helps. How big is the Billie goat? The problem is of course that the kids might be too big. If you don't want them in kid I would suggest seperating them all and put them in a secure pen or building where he cannot get to them, or put him in a secure building, and get the vet out to give them prostaglandin. Prostaglandin brings animals into season, but it also gets rid of any unborn animal. Hope this helps.

[waterbuffalofarmer]

Is there something the vet could prescribe for them as a form of "morning after pill"?

The answer is prostaglandin

[verdifish]

Id say at this time if the year it would be unlikely that any of them would be coming into season but not impossible ,scanning goats is an art so if you do find someone can you let me know ,prostaglandin wont bring them into season untill they have natural we started to cycle !

[fsmnutter]

Goats are not buffalo. Buffalo are like cattle where scanning is done via the rectum, this means there is little between the scanner and uterus so can be done from 4 weeks with an experienced scanner. However goats, especially pygmy goats are far too small for that, so are scanned via the belly. This means the foetus needs to be much larger to detect, so sheep and goats are normally scanned from 55-90 days. You would be best to find a professional sheep scanner in the area to detect pregnancies around that time. As already suggested, goats are seasonal breeders so are unlikely to

[fsmnutter]

have been in season. If he is not a much bigger billy where kids could be hard to deliver, it is unlikely to be a problem. Prostaglandins are licensed to cause abortion in cattle up to 100 days of pregnancy, less reliably after this date. Again, though, goats are not buffalo or cattle and have a slightly different way of maintaining pregnancy so although sometimes prostaglandin will work, it would generally be used in combination with steroid in sheep or goats and still not guaranteed success.

[Dogwalker]

The local sheep scanner has scanned my angora goats.
He got them all right except one that had only just missed a season that he said wasn't pregnant that went on to have twins.
They were scanned about new year and kidded in March.
 
Pygmies might be a bit small though and need a vet to scan them or a farmer with plenty of  patience.

[waterbuffalofarmer]

I know you scan them like sheep but I would say about maybe  a month before you could tell if there was something and not just fluid there, i may be wrong. Something else you could feed them is a lot of penny royal and raspberry leaf.

[waterbuffalofarmer]

Goats are not buffalo. Buffalo are like cattle where scanning is done via the rectum, this means there is little between the scanner and uterus so can be done from 4 weeks with an experienced scanner. However goats, especially pygmy goats are far too small for that, so are scanned via the belly. This means the foetus needs to be much larger to detect, so sheep and goats are normally scanned from 55-90 days. You would be best to find a professional sheep scanner in the area to detect pregnancies around that time. As already suggested, goats are seasonal breeders so are unlikely to

That is the only instance in which buffaloes are like cattle.

[fsmnutter]

I would say about maybe  a month before you could tell if there was something and not just fluid there, i may be wrong.

Again I repeat, 55-90 days for scanning sheep. I am a vet, so years of training probably means I might be more correct than your googling the answers.

[smithycraft]

We had a man in to scan our sheep this year and he did the goats as well.  He is based around Inverurie I think, so probably wouldn't go as far as Angus.  However, he is very good and will do small numbers so if anyone wants his contact details, let me know.

[waterbuffalofarmer]

I would say about maybe  a month before you could tell if there was something and not just fluid there, i may be wrong.

Again I repeat, 55-90 days for scanning sheep. I am a vet, so years of training probably means I might be more correct than your googling the answers.

I guessed from my experience with some species

[fsmnutter]

Guessing, when you then get the answer completely wrong is worse than saying nothing.

[verdifish]

Wbf ,posting your best guesses based on experience with other species is unhelpful at best and down right dangerous at worst .on another thread you say I'm being offensive by making a tounge in cheek comment .I find a lot of the utter rubbish you post ,sometimes not even connected to the thread in question offensive ! So i guess we are quits !!! Please think before you post ,ie is what I'm about to post relevant to either the thread title or the direction the comments have gone ? If not don't post ! We all like a wee laugh and a joke sometimes but when drivel is posted and experts tel you its drivel take it as something learnt and leave it at that ,and if you don't k ow what your talking about don't post as it leads people up the garden path to confusedshire !!!