Author Topic: Production entrant basic payment scheme. (Read 4126 times)

Builth · « **on:** December 10, 2014, 08:51:59 am »

Hi,
I'm new to posting on this site but read it often for helpful advice.
I have a small hill farm in mid wales and need help or advice with claiming new 2015 basic payments.
I have never held entitlements but part of my ground has been claimed on by neighbours SAF's and they have paid me a fee.
With the new scheme I am trying to claim in my own name, I was advised by Welsh gov to submit a 2014 SAF and register my land (fm4) as farm land. I was also advised to apply for Glastir commons, Glastir, Glastir woodland scheme & express an interest in going organic.
I so far have managed to get £250 commons payment and should get about £1100 Glastir payment next December (2015) and that's it!
I was hoping to apply as a new entrant but by trying to farm & following Gov. advice I am now not eligible as not new to farming.
I was told by 1 farm adviser I should have not bought animals and started to farm, I should have either bought entitlement or with hindsight just grass let my land.
I have now been advised to try and get production entry, which is last on the list for national reserve & only a fifth of the payment in year one increasing by a fifth until 2019 when I get what everyone else gets!

Is there anyone on here with the same problem?
Sorry for the long post / rant but not much good solid advice out there.

Builth · « **Reply #1 on:** December 11, 2014, 08:25:11 am »

No one in the same boat?

Backinwellies · « **Reply #2 on:** December 11, 2014, 06:52:52 pm »

When did you start farming in your own right? Didn't you have to have SFP to apply for Glastir? I thought you did.

Sorry not much help.

Do you belong to NFU? .... they could have good advice.

Stereo · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2014, 05:01:00 pm »

I'm taking on 50 acres in Southern England as of next week so would be interested in how this goes. I will be trying to qualify as a new entrant as I have run a small poultry thing on 2 acres for the past year but nothing major. Good luck with it, not sure I can advise as I am as confused as you.

Builth · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2014, 04:45:11 pm »

We have been farming small scale since 2009 and have put in a SAF ( single application form) for 2 years without entitlement or payment so that we can apply for Glastir. I'm not an NFU member I have had some advice from farming connect & Welsh office staff.

From what I can gather England & Wales have different ways to claim so not sure if your poultry business will count, In wales it would and you would be in the same boat as me

bazzais · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2014, 06:31:21 pm »

Join a farmers union - not much outlay - and they will know all the hurdles to jump. Its almost impossible when your trying to earn a living to know the politics behind the form filling.

Builth · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2014, 06:02:12 pm »

Thank you I'll look into it.

Crofterloon · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2014, 06:06:22 pm »

I would advise you to go to a good agent as there are lots of things in the pipeline just now I have not read about.
You do not need an agent as you can do everything on line but I thinks it will work out best.
The NFU will help you also your choice.

For example if an entrant is under a certain age there is money available for new buildings etc.

If you have never claimed before should be fine I am in the same boat but in Scotland.

PM me if you want.