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Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 11:07:30 pm »
sorry it took me such a long time hope they are ok

From what I can see, the field looks fine for Hebs.  I don't see any ragwort, foxglove and so on to poison them.  Is the ground open into the conifers?  Hebs love a bit of browsing and will rip the bark off trees, although conifers are not their favourite.  We bring ours willow branches for a few extra vitamins and minerals in the winter - they love them.
Are there any rocky bits?  They are good for keeping the feet worn properly, but they are not essential.

What does everyone else think?
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ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 11:18:24 am »
There is no open bit to live trees but there are a few branches and some always get cut as they fall  and put in the feild around the fence just to make sure the sheep don't escape. There is stables with gravle around and slabs in side where the sheep go when it gets too rough outside.

roddycm

  • Joined Jul 2013
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2014, 11:35:48 am »
If you like rare breeds and horned how about Portland sheep!? Very docile and easy to manage, the lambs are born a fox red colour which fades to a creamy body and tan face as they become adults. Lovely sheep! The rams are spectacular and again very docile... Just another thought!

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2014, 04:56:03 pm »
Hi roddycm
 I do not know of any portland breeders nr Peebles or do I know anything aboutthem but rare breeds tend to cost more as they are harder to get than others. Also there tends too be reason that they are rare breeds whether they tend too just die or feet problem or tricky lambing or just not economical to keep, :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff: but there is always a reason like when i had a tamworth pig we had to get the vet out several times which cost allot, :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( but with the gos we never had a problem and I can always change my mind later . The reason I'm going for Hebs is that they will eat the bits of the feild that my zwartbles will not as they are fussy and have found them to be fussy but pleasant sheep. I also have had my heart set of hebs since I was 4, so 11 years. However if you know of a breeder nr me I could change my mind if you where wanting to change my mind.
Thanks anyway

roddycm

  • Joined Jul 2013
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2014, 06:32:17 pm »
Oh gosh no! Not trying to change your mind, just throwing ideas around and trying to be helpful! I had hebs and then manx... The manx i especially loved I never had a problem with either and would heartily recommend both! I was just thinking that I wouldn't put my little nephew in with them because of their horns and their willingness to use them especially the tamer ones! If my dogs could talk they'd tell a bruised tale or two haha

You are right though these are all rare breeds because they do not fit the commercial system! All have good feet and easy lambing though so on that side defo better than commercials! The Portland was a suggestion just because of it's more placid nature, while still being different! Black welsh is another option haha promise I'll stop now! Best of luck with wtv you decide, you have a very lucky little boy I'd have loved my mum to get me my own sheep at that age!

Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2014, 09:28:40 am »
The reason I'm going for Hebs is that they will eat the bits of the feild that my zwartbles will not as they are fussy and have found them to be fussy but pleasant sheep.

Z123 - is your land all one field?  I wonder if you may have trouble if the Hebs preferentially eat all the good stuff you want for your Zwartbles and only then move on to the rough stuff, leaving the Zwartbles hungry?  Fleecewife et al - do your Hebs eat the nice stuff first like this?
 
I'm reading this thread with interest since we currently have Manx Loaghtans and Zwartbles, so are on the same learning curve as you! BTW, we've found that our Zwartbles love eating dock leaves, which the Manxs won't touch, so it seems to work both ways!?
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Big Light

  • Joined Aug 2011
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Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2014, 11:08:00 am »
As FW says the hebs eat selectively and like to browse we have a field with an area of longer grass and the hebs are choosing currently to eat the seed head s off the longer grass rather than.the green clover they also like to browse nettles docs and bizarrely thistles
BL

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
    • ScotHebs
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2014, 12:49:20 pm »
As FW says the hebs eat selectively and like to browse we have a field with an area of longer grass and the hebs are choosing currently to eat the seed head s off the longer grass rather than.the green clover they also like to browse nettles docs and bizarrely thistles
BL

Yep - Hebs and other primitives, maybe all sheep, are good at choosing a 'route' for going around their available grazing/browsing area, so they take a bit of this and a bit of that.  A bit like goats with a range will do.
Ours tend to eat certain things at certain times of year.  For example, they don't like mid sized nettles, which maybe sting more viciously than the younger and older nettles, but I have noticed that from about now onwards, as the nutritional content of grazing declines, so they eat more nettles, thistles and browsing in general.
we currently have one multi-horned Heb ewe lamb, number 93, who loves browsing on the hedge and the rough grass and herbs under it.  To get to it she has to stick her head through the Rylock mesh, then of course she can't pull it back through.  She has already broken 3 of her 4 horns this way.  She bawls very loudly when she's stuck, so Mr F and I just say the magic words "93" and trog off to free her.  It's a wretched nuisance in fact, but she's becoming quite a friendly sheep this way.

There are certain times when the Hebs aren't all that keen on the longer, dryer grass amongst the lusher stuff.  I think that when the ewes are feeding their lambs they know they need richer feed than once they wean them, so you can't run both Zwartbles and Hebs together and expect one to eat only lush grass and the other to eat only coarse stuff - they will both eat both, but in slightly different proportions. 
So don't calculate your stocking rate as if only each breed will be there - you have to take into account the total number of grazing units (1 grazing unit is one cow or 5 sheep).
But no, Hebs will not eat only the lush grass leaving the Zwartbles hungry.
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2014, 02:09:46 pm »
Hi Womble
Yes currently I only have one field but I usually do rotational grazing but when I want the field right down to the ground and that tends to make them eat everything but the thistles so to get the thistles down I really need a cow. But I do have allot of ground for them to graze over as I currently have 5 acres and 4 sheep.
Thuan is for all your replies

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2014, 09:12:59 am »
Ok thanks for all your replies I am going for hebs

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2014, 06:16:13 pm »
Hi guys thanks for all the help, I got the two girls back late last night and they seem to have relaxed a bit. I will post some pics.

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2014, 06:17:28 pm »
pic 1 from a distance (sorry about bad camera)

ThomasR

  • Joined Jun 2014
  • Peebles
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2014, 06:18:50 pm »
pics again

Brandi

  • Joined Oct 2012
Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2014, 06:37:13 pm »
 :wave: how exciting for you, all the best!

They look really at home and have plenty of room to roam

Big Light

  • Joined Aug 2011
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Re: Hebridean sheep
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2014, 08:45:44 pm »
They look nice  - i would be giving them the odd treat just to get them used to you - a little coarse mix rattled in a bucket just to say hello every couple of days for a short time will keep them nice and tame - the Heb sale is on at Stirling Caledonian mart on Saturday coming if your looking for more
good luck

 

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